G STAR RAM Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, ramblur said: In the absence of any professional valuers of players' registrations,perhaps we should throw ourselves at the mercy of Transfermkt? Looking at the other thread it would probably be better for FFP purposes if we let @RamsPollscarry out the revaluations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Looking at the other thread it would probably be better for FFP purposes if we let @RamsPollscarry out the revaluations! If you thought IlsonRam gave much more realistic valuations in that thread,then you must surely think our balance sheet heavily undervalues the players we've paid fees for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, ramblur said: In a highly inflated market,I think you might be surprised at how much our squad might fetch. When I get home later going to do my own little valuation exercise, I can't knock other peoples valuations without doing it myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, ramblur said: If you thought IlsonRam gave much more realistic valuations in that thread,then you must surely think our balance sheet heavily undervalues the players we've paid fees for! Apologies to @IlsonDerby for getting your name wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyD Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Might be just me but I'm wondering if we fellow number crunchers are falling into the classic accountants error here of "can't see the wood for the trees" and failing to see the big picture, debating about obscure accounting details and irrelevant definitions of bland accounting terms . The Financial Statements just show some details of what happened at the minimum one or two years ago. What we are interested in is their pertinence to what is likely to happen in the future. It was really interesting to hear today how the owner of Reading is saying that its just too expensive to run a football team and she wants out. You do have to wonder at what point Mel gets to this conclusion. Its all very well investing in millions and millions in 'back office' stuff (and I would include all the training facilities and academy support in that) . But the sheer ongoing costs of supporting this ever-growing overhead are mind-boggling and surely unsustainable. Gary Rowett comes in (thank the lord) and he brings in with him an army of lieutenants. The previous army of lieutenants needs to be dispensed with. It still leaves an astonishing number of what I would call (excuse the modern parlance) of "none value-adding overhead". The only "KPI" that matters in this business is success on the pitch. Everything else is an irrelevance. Unless those investments in overheads directly lead to an improvement in performance on the pitch in a relatively short period of time, they are wasted. And will not recur for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 8 hours ago, SaintRam said: transfermarkt is a good benchmark. But it doesn't really take inflated markets into account (rightly so, but when weighing up value vs what we can get for players its an important factor to take into consideration). It also massively undervalues youth. And massively overvalues Blackman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 3 hours ago, bigbadbob said: And massively overvalues Blackman Give the lad a chance next season. I will put my neck on the line and say he could do the same job Nugent does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Give the lad a chance next season. I will put my neck on the line and say he could do the same job Nugent does. People said that this season. Hopefully Blackman will be gone in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: People said that this season. Hopefully Blackman will be gone in the summer. Don't agree on this one DEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Don't agree on this one DEL OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Give the lad a chance next season. I will put my neck on the line and say he could do the same job Nugent does. Are you seriously talking about Blackman? What have we seen from him that gives you that idea? What have we seen Nuge do that you think Blackman could do - IMO the answer to that is nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 9 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Are you seriously talking about Blackman? What have we seen from him that gives you that idea? What have we seen Nuge do that you think Blackman could do - IMO the answer to that is nothing! Yes I am serious Roy. I have seen only glimpses for us its true. But if directed to play in the Nugent role I think he has all the attributes. If he can develop/be directed to show the energy that is required then we may just have a player on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Give the lad a chance next season. I will put my neck on the line and say he could do the same job Nugent does. I am sorry but I have seen nothing from a good footballer point of view to give me any hope that Blackman can even expect time on the pitch next season in fact all he seems to have is a damm good contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It's all about opinions. Lets see next season Sparkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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