Mafiabob Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Refusing to play for West Ham..... Quite happy to sign a deal when he needed the club however...... Player Power stinks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sell him, once a player says that he should be sold asap. I would expect Mel to do that regardless of who it was, be it Hughes, Ince or Carson. Club is bigger than any one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just heard this on talksport....is it contagious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 nice hair though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 He must want to come to Derby as well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Dock his wages then and tell him to sod off. You're playing football and getting paid fortunes. Get on with it and stop being a baby you total cretin. Sorry about that. God are there ANY footballers out there that appreciate ANYTHING these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 38 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Sell him, once a player says that he should be sold asap. I would expect Mel to do that regardless of who it was, be it Hughes, Ince or Carson. Club is bigger than any one player. So, give the player and the agent exactly what they want? I'm not saying that's necessarily wrong. Big sums of money are involved and clubs have to be pragmatic, but any sale when a player behaves this way will only encourage others to do the same in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anon said: So, give the player and the agent exactly what they want? I'm not saying that's necessarily wrong. Big sums of money are involved and clubs have to be pragmatic, but any sale when a player behaves this way will only encourage others to do the same in the future. Good, move all the slackers on. Keeping them could upset the rest of the squad. If they think the grass is greener, fine go. However, just like Martin, we are only hearing from the manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Good, move all the slackers on. Keeping them could upset the rest of the squad. If they think the grass is greener, fine go. However, just like Martin, we are only hearing from the manager... I think that's a dangerous game. You could become seen as a selling club and a pushover in the transfer market. I agree that keeping an unhappy player could be bad for morale, but so could allowing your best players to leave to rival teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 'An unhappy player' Says it all about modern football really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, McRamFan said: Sell him, once a player says that he should be sold asap. I would expect Mel to do that regardless of who it was, be it Hughes, Ince or Carson. Club is bigger than any one player. The club is bigger than any one player. That's why they should keep him. Let him rot. West Ham don't need the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good for him. He has carried West Ham since the minute he first pulled on their shirt. He was persuaded to sign a new contract with them on the basis of the ambition of the club, the level of new players they would be bringing in, the vision for the club was to match his vision for himself as a player. west ham have failed to live up to their side of the bargain, almost lied to him to get him to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This is the alleged attitude CM is having at Fulham. I wouldn't want any player who outright refused to play for DCFC regardless of how vital they are to the team. There's a difference between wanting a move, but continuing to be professional and playing to your best when picked (which surely would help a potential move?) and doing what Payet has done. I wouldn't even send them to the youth squad, I'd have thought players contracts would have something written in to them about refusing to play, but then I imagine any doctor diagnosing an injury the club can't find is hard to dispute, which would be a way out of that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 should have stayed at upton park, that place is a poisoned chalice and the owners must have one eye on a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Anon said: I think that's a dangerous game. You could become seen as a selling club and a pushover in the transfer market. I agree that keeping an unhappy player could be bad for morale, but so could allowing your best players to leave to rival teams. Or seen as not prepared to take the BS from primadonnas (sic) and greedy agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, McRamFan said: Or seen as not prepared to take the BS from primadonnas (sic) and greedy agents. But, like I said, selling the player is taking the BS because it's exactly what the refusal to play is designed to accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Anon said: But, like I said, selling the player is taking the BS because it's exactly what the refusal to play is designed to accomplish. Some say they want to leave or will refuse to play to engineer a wage rise, I would call their bluff and move them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anon said: But, like I said, selling the player is taking the BS because it's exactly what the refusal to play is designed to accomplish. How would they look if their response was, "ok fine, hand in a transfer request"? They don't have to accept every bid that came in if that happened (would they?), and he can sit at home on gardening leave if not prepared to play. Sell him to anyone but a rival (China have a shedload of cash at the minute), and problem solved. #simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 fine 2 weeks wages for every time they don't turn up to training or refuse to play. With 2 games a week for a while, he'll end up owing the club money. Also, for breach of contract, reclaim his signing bonus and threaten to sue for pro-rata the transfer fee paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, mrdave85 said: How would they look if their response was, "ok fine, hand in a transfer request"? They don't have to accept every bid that came in if that happened (would they?), and he can sit at home on gardening leave if not prepared to play. Sell him to anyone but a rival (China have a shedload of cash at the minute), and problem solved. #simples This is what I'd do if my club could afford it. The player could train with the kids whilst I worked my hardest to engineer a move for him to Greenland's B67-Nuuk or Kabul FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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