YouRams Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: Karanka is just another Clement, boring football and wasting money on average players. Downing was 6m and has been a waste of space. If people honestly think he is the answer then this club is doomed. That's part of the big fallout downing wasn't his signing, and because he's a fan favourite and a chairman signing he finds him hard to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, YouRams said: That's part of the big fallout downing wasn't his signing, and because he's a fan favourite and a chairman signing he finds him hard to manage. So why did the players meet behind his back then? What about all the others players he's brought in for good money to play boring football? I mean maybe there has been a fall out with Downing but when you spend big cash you expect more just like we did. Rumours going about that the players say he's a bully etc, then has a team meeting and storms out. Doesn't add up like you say to me. We need a manager that can nuture what we had first 80 mins yesterday, not another Clement clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 34 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: If Karanka bought George Friend with him then he gets my vote. Hopefully we have learned our lesson in giving out jobs just because of friends.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Dyche likely to be managing a Premiership club next season and will drop down a division to manage us yes right oh. Pulis read some of the West Brom forums he's even more rigid then Clement was and plays an atrocious style of football. Karanka perhaps would question his temperament and man management credentials after this week. Pearson it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 23 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Why stick with someone you are unhappy with? If we went up with Clement could he really then sack him? How would that go down with the fans? Sack him in case he is successful....can't see this new philosophy catching on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 52 minutes ago, BodminRam said: I know 2 managers available in the summer, they are both managing teams in Manchester at the mo.. Seriously though i cant think who they would be Jim Gannon and John Askey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 @tomsdubs he wouldn't be my first choice, but I do think managers get a hard time of things. As Ramage always says your not just managing football players now your managing millionaires. They might not have taken kindly to a young firerey manager "dictating" to them. And Downing could be getting more "respect" from the other players than the manager is. With our big money big earning players, we need an experienced manager that warrants respect from day 1 and doesn't take any BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Sack him in case he is successful....can't see this new philosophy catching on Measuring success using other people's parameters...I dont see that catching on either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, YouRams said: See above. Sorry...sarcasm detector not been working for a while. Think MM might have tampered with it at the breakfast club when he was brainwashing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, TheDeadlySaul said: If we went up with him then Clement would have done a decent job and would deserve to stay on. Using what basis for measurement. With the funds extended to him we should have been ripping up 75% of this league and doing it in style. If the brief given to him was 'get promoted in any way possible' then yes I would agree it would have been a success and impossible to sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 31 minutes ago, eddie said: Jim Gannon and John Askey? It's a pity that Jimmy Sirrel isn't still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Inglorius said: Dyche likely to be managing a Premiership club next season and will drop down a division to manage us yes right oh. Pulis read some of the West Brom forums he's even more rigid then Clement was and plays an atrocious style of football. Karanka perhaps would question his temperament and man management credentials after this week. Pearson it is then. Can't you remember when Arthur Cox got Newcastle promoted to the top division, and then left to join us in what is now Leauge One? It can and has been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Can't you remember when Arthur Cox got Newcastle promoted to the top division, and then left to join us in what is now Leauge One? It can and has been done before. Football hasn't changed at all since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Just now, KBB said: Football hasn't changed at all since then? Yes, there are more substitutes that can be used nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Can't you remember when Arthur Cox got Newcastle promoted to the top division, and then left to join us in what is now Leauge One? It can and has been done before. I can and I still can't believe it in todays context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Measuring success using other people's parameters...I dont see that catching on either Exactly, if success wasn't being measured by promotion, then why would it matter if he sacked him during or at the end of the season, which was your original point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCFCArmy Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 what happens when they draw or lose again and Aitor has another tantrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 22 minutes ago, rhysbeck said: Sky Sports News is saying he will be gone in the next few days...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKRam Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Inglorius said: Dyche likely to be managing a Premiership club next season and will drop down a division to manage us yes right oh. Pulis read some of the West Brom forums he's even more rigid then Clement was and plays an atrocious style of football. Karanka perhaps would question his temperament and man management credentials after this week. Pearson it is then. I am afraid the ship is already sailed for Pearson. As confirmed by both Bris and Mostyn, Pearson's camp took the initiative and contacted DCFC but was given a "thanks but no thanks". Apparently, MM had already made up his mind at that point about DW's suitability. Would you expect MM to eat his humble pie and go back to Pearson now, in the middle of the season? Can't see that. Plus if I were Pearson I would rather take the Boro job. I mean unless I want to stayed local, Boro is better career-wise. The club is better managed with competent people. At least there is no intervening Chairman there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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