Day Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Smoking will be banned in all prisons in Wales and four in south-west England from next year, the government says.This will begin a phased roll-out that will eventually see all jails in England and Wales go smoke-free.And from next month, smoking will be barred inside buildings at all "open" prisons in England and Wales.The Prison Governors Association, which supports the ban, said it would monitor this initial phase to ensure stability and safety were maintained.A smoke-free policy will be implemented in all prisons in Wales - Cardiff, Parc, Swansea and Usk/Prescoed - from January 2016, and at four English prisons - Exeter, Channings Wood, Dartmoor and Erlestoke - from March 2016.Smoking is currently allowed only in prison cells and exercise yards, but the government eventually intends to ban smoking in all 136 prisons in England and Wales to reduce health risks. The move follows a series of legal challenges by prison officers and inmates who have complained about the effects of passive smoking.Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34395034Thoughts?Seems harsh to me not to let them smoke even outside, should ban tv's and game consoles if anything. Books and training courses only. Shouldn't be an easy lifestyle choice for drop outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Cue the riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Tis a bit harsh. Can't they control how many cigs they have per day instead? Once they've gone, they've gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'd take the soap off them too. Let'em do it dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 What is to be gained by banning smoking? Why not simply have a ban on smoking in most areas and have a designated smoking area outside during their recreation time.There is nothing to be gained by this, and it will only lead to more strife for prison guards.The anti-smoking campaigners are going too far in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 its already like butlins holiday camp, what they replacing smoking with indian head massages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 its already like butlins holiday camp, what they replacing smoking with indian head massages Once they get sky tv..... im in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Isn't tabs currency in prison?should be banned along with TV, consoles, red top newspapers. They can smoke whilst picking litter up on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Should make it mandatory for lifers to smoke 40 a day. Kill them off quicker and free up another spot in the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 the problem with the hardline approach is that innocent people are sent to prison (and guilty) whilst the crown prosecution builds a case against them. Is it fair that someone on remand, having been wrongly accused of something, is treated as guilty, being forced to have nothing like normal life, as well as being with the scum of the earth, and possibly losing their job and home, and possessions and possibly relationships whilst waiting to attend court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 No doubt they will be replaced with those Vapour things or E cigs at the expense of the tax payer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 You know how it works Mostyn, guilty until proven innocent. You can't even touch your balls in the court cells, how can you deny a man the right to rearrange his testicles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wonder how many have been to prison on this forum? Think I would rather value their opinion on prison life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 its already like butlins holiday camp, what they replacing smoking with indian head massagesIt can't be that awful, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ahh the anti-smoking movement in all its fascist glory. Government should not over step its mandate on this sort of stuff and they are at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I am not anti smoking I am anti convicted prisioners have better life styles that people that try to work hard and have to choose between heating or eating, whilst these lags get 3 meals aday.Remand should be treated as innocent until proven otherwise, and held away from the convicted.As for wrong convictions, whilst bad, it should have a very good compensation and an investigation as to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I am not anti smoking I am anti convicted prisioners have better life styles that people that try to work hard and have to choose between heating or eating, whilst these lags get 3 meals aday.Remand should be treated as innocent until proven otherwise, and held away from the convicted.As for wrong convictions, whilst bad, it should have a very good compensation and an investigation as to why.Do you regard a inmate having the right to smoke as them having a better lifestyle than the general public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 And nearly as expensive...It can't be that awful, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 People turn a blind eye to illegal drugs in prisons because it aids the control. So, I don't see a ban on legal drugs working in practice.While this probably may make sense on paper to the bureacrats, I'm sure it will make life very difficult for the officers on the ground. You can understand there being a ban inside including in cells, but there should be designated smoking areas.Most people are coming round to the view that e-cigarettes are actually a massive health boon (because they help stop people smoking). If this ban comes in, vaping has to be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Do you regard a inmate having the right to smoke as them having a better lifestyle than the general public?Outside you have a choice, once locked up all choices should be removed. Minimal nutrtional requirement provided and a strict rehabilitation plan, including labour that contributes to society.What about non smokers, why should they be in an environment where they could be exposed to secound hand smoke? Why should prisoners be allowed smoking areas, why allowed special allowances, if that is the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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