Ovis aries Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 How many times is that this season we have had the opportunity to push on and have bottled it.WiganLeedsCardiffDogs.Seems like we can not stand the heat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram8 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sense of perspective required here , and our position in no way equates to the Billy Davies promotion season .. we were lucky to go up , West Brom were the better team at Wembley , and Davies sold our best players and bought replacements who were way below the level of ( particularly ) Idiakez and Tommy Smith .. then we were 'found out' big time in the Premier .. this team and squad are MANY notches above that one , and get real , Steve McLaren or Billy Davies ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sense of perspective required here , and our position in no way equates to the Billy Davies promotion season .. we were lucky to go up , West Brom were the better team at Wembley , and Davies sold our best players and bought replacements who were way below the level of ( particularly ) Idiakez and Tommy Smith .. then we were 'found out' big time in the Premier .. this team and squad are MANY notches above that one , and get real , Steve McLaren or Billy Davies ???? Our current defence would be found out in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 How many times is that this season we have had the opportunity to push on and have bottled it.WiganLeedsCardiffDogs.Seems like we can not stand the heat . Agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Bottled it is a strong word guess all the teams around us have bottled it then for that matter. If folks think we should be winning every game we play then yes we bottled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Our current defence would be found out in the Premier League. We aren't in the premier league are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 We aren't in the premier league are we? No. The Premier League is much added than the Championship though, that the general idea. And because it is harder it is generally considered a good idea to strengthen the defence. Although if we didn't it would be good to see if we could concede even more than in 07-08. Maybe we could even make it to 100 goals this time, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Bottled it is a strong word guess all the teams around us have bottled it then for that matter. If folks think we should be winning every game we play then yes we bottled it. Inconsistent is a better word I reckon, which is why I have doubts over us getting one of those top 2 positions. Thankfully for us, nobody has really put that division winning run together yet. I thought we were onto something (again) after 3 wins on the bounce without a goal conceded, especially after last weeks win at Ipswich. It's going down to the wire this, strap in folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No. The Premier League is much added than the Championship though, that the general idea. And because it is harder it is generally considered a good idea to strengthen the defence. Although if we didn't it would be good to see if we could concede even more than in 07-08. Maybe we could even make it to 100 goals this time, If we make the premier league the manager has the opportunity to strengthen in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Our current defence would be found out in the Premier League. I reckon our defence would probably be found out in the Champions League as well. Thought I'd give you another thing to panic about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Whoever wins this league will have lost at least 10 games in the process. If we're going to be like this after every defeat, I've got bad news for you all - even if we win the league, it's going to happen a few times more yet. Teams have won the Championship in recent years with 12 defeats to their name. We could be only half-way through our total number of defeats on the way to automatic promotion with over half the season done. "The Ipswich win counted for nothing". What? It counted for three points. Imagine where we'd be if we hadn't - we'd have slipped right back away again. We've had a few performances like this but we've yet to fall out of the reckoning, because other teams in the top 6 are doing the same thing. We're too used to the Premier League idea of the top few teams running away with it and losing no more than half a dozen games to win the league. It's never like that in this league, and certainly not like that this season. he difference between us and Forest is nowhere near as great as it is between City and Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Having a easier run in then the rest and the next few months with a lot easier teams we should be fine. We've had a really hard December/Start or January IMO soon we'll be against the Rotherhams etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 16th after Slumping to 12 consecutive defeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Does no one see the irony in saying 'we need three first team signings to be promoted, otherwise we'll lose our whole squad if we **** it up' Either this side is good enough for promotion or it's not. If it's not then why are people worried about a rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Thank god when asked about premiership getting Raul to sign.. That he said he signed whether we are in the prem or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I have the bad feeling the Bournemouth and Ipswich are going to break away from us while we failure to capitalise in games like Forest. We're going to be chasing play-offs. And we all know in the play offs anything can happen. We aren't the team we were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Bournemouth, Ipswich and Middlesbrough all play again before us. We are likely to be six points behind Bournemouth and five behind Ipswich soon, so the pressure will be on us. A good job that we beat Ipswich.On Saturday, we were still trying to win the game after 90 minutes. This sounds ok but the gap behind us was massive. there was no captain on the field to dictate policy on tactics or whether to settle for a draw. In Golf they call it Course Management. There are times to play a risky shot and times to accept a par or a bogey. That is the way to win competitions. There are only two points in it but there is a pack of hungry wolves behind us. The pack do not have the same fear of us as they had two months ago. Uwe Rosler was asked how he beat us two times running. He said that he just did the same again. We had not, and have not as yet learnt to combat this approach. What is the answer? When the game is running away from us, change the formation by putting someone else in the midfield and settle for a draw if necessary. The alternative is to lose the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Bournemouth, Ipswich and Middlesbrough all play again before us. We are likely to be six points behind Bournemouth and five behind Ipswich soon, so the pressure will be on us. A good job that we beat Ipswich.On Saturday, we were still trying to win the game after 90 minutes. This sounds ok but the gap behind us was massive. there was no captain on the field to dictate policy on tactics or whether to settle for a draw. In Golf they call it Course Management. There are times to play a risky shot and times to accept a par or a bogey. That is the way to win competitions. There are only two points in it but there is a pack of hungry wolves behind us. The pack do not have the same fear of us as they had two months ago. Uwe Rosler was asked how he beat us two times running. He said that he just did the same again. We had not, and have not as yet learnt to combat this approach. What is the answer? When the game is running away from us, change the formation by putting someone else in the midfield and settle for a draw if necessary. The alternative is to lose the match. But surely we already have three in the midfield. What needs to happen, in those situations, is for one of the 2 CM's to drop in with the CDM more, while the other one links the mids and Martin/Bent. And this should really only apply to away games. If we're at home, drawing with 5 minutes to go, I would like to think that regardless of how we're playing, we should be ones pushing for an equaliser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We'll finish 4th, play Watford in a very difficult Semi. If we get through, it will be to someone that will be alot harder than last year at Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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