Dale The Ram Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Id like to see someone be offside on a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 There are some daft rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 According to the rules, you can't be offside from a goal kick????? When did this change? Its always been like that. Hence germanys third against us in the world cup match wasnt flagged for offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Im sure I remember a time, the only time our defence was capable of it, when Mark Wright used to lead the line out and gain offside decisions from goal kicks? I might have to raid the loft for some (actual) video tape footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "It is illegal for a goalkeeper to roll his sleeves up or wear a short sleeve shirt. This is because when punching the ball in a crowd of players the referee can easily identify the goal keeper's arms in the melee. " Gotta be ******? Barthez never wore long sleeves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Im sure I remember a time, the only time our defence was capable of it, when Mark Wright used to lead the line out and gain offside decisions from goal kicks? I might have to raid the loft for some (actual) video tape footage. Were they kicks out of hand? Goal kicks are off the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "It is illegal for a goalkeeper to roll his sleeves up or wear a short sleeve shirt. This is because when punching the ball in a crowd of players the referee can easily identify the goal keeper's arms in the melee. " Gotta be ******? Barthez never wore long sleeves? Was a rule due to goalkeepers not wearing gloves until the (I think) late seventies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Were they kicks out of hand? Goal kicks are off the floor Lol......thanks for that! I think I know the difference! It's probably just my memory trying to justify my rule ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Lol......thanks for that! I think I know the difference! It's probably just my memory trying to justify my rule ignorance. I only foubd out about it during the world cup when Linekar mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 You are unclear of the terms here, but if you mean an indirect free kick for the defensive team, and they stick it straight into their own net, it'll be a corner to the opposition. The same goes for an indirect free kick the other way (except it'll be a goal kick) as well as a throw in (as long as nobody touches it). Another fun rule is that if at a goal kick (or a free kick in the box if I recall right), a keeper just knocks the ball, and a striker touches it before it has left the box, it's a dead ball and the goal kick has to be retaken. The ball, from a goal kick, isn't in play until it's left his penalty area. Hi. No, I was speaking about a direct free kick taken by a defender which ends up in his own goal. That would also be a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Right, one that's always bugged me. If an outfield player intentionally punches the ball away from their own goal line, thus preventing a goal, it's a red card offence. If a player punches intentionally the ball over the opposition's goal line, thus scoring a goal, it's a yellow card offence. IT MAKES NO SENSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Right, one that's always bugged me. If an outfield player intentionally punches the ball away from their own goal line, thus preventing a goal, it's a red card offence. If a player punches intentionally the ball over the opposition's goal line, thus scoring a goal, it's a yellow card offence. IT MAKES NO SENSE I agree...and your avatar really freaks me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Bizarre rule which I've never heard of. I can't imagine it ever happening though, as most defensive freekicks are either short passes or punts upfield from the goalkeeper. I can never imagine Keogh for instace deciding to pass the ball back to Grant from a freekick in our own half. Why would he ever do that and what would be the point? Someone told me that reason this rule exists is to prevent match fixing. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Right, one that's always bugged me. If an outfield player intentionally punches the ball away from their own goal line, thus preventing a goal, it's a red card offence. If a player punches intentionally the ball over the opposition's goal line, thus scoring a goal, it's a yellow card offence. IT MAKES NO SENSE One denies a goal scoring opportunity the other does not. Deliberate handball to score a goal is unsportsmanlike conduct and is a yellow card offence. Delibrate handball that denies a goal scoring opportunity is a red card offense Makes perfect sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 We should do this against F*rest. 7-0 up last minute we get a free kick after thelongerdonger assaults Keogh. Keogh smacks it into our net, they all get excited and ref gives a corner.. We say well we tried to help you out but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 One denies a goal scoring opportunity the other does not. Deliberate handball to score a goal is unsportsmanlike conduct and is a yellow card offence. Delibrate handball that denies a goal scoring opportunity is a red card offense Makes perfect sense It doesn't though. What you've done is explain the law as it stands, not say why the law makes sense. There is absolutely no reason I can think of why it should be deemed a worse offence to cheat in order to stop a goal than to cheat in order to score a goal. Why exactly is one 'unsportsmanlike' and the other a major offence, aside from the fact that a rather stupid law says so? Why is stopping a goal with your hands not merely unsportsmanlike? 'Because the law says so' isn't an acceptable answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It doesn't though. What you've done is explain the law as it stands, not say why the law makes sense. There is absolutely no reason I can think of why it should be deemed a worse offence to cheat in order to stop a goal than to cheat in order to score a goal. Why exactly is one 'unsportsmanlike' and the other a major offence, aside from the fact that a rather stupid law says so? Why is stopping a goal with your hands not merely unsportsmanlike? 'Because the law says so' isn't an acceptable answer Because the ref cant award the goal that you punched away, but he can disallow the goal thst you scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Because the ref cant award the goal that you punched away, but he can disallow the goal thst you scored. I'll accept that. I still think it's wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Right, one that's always bugged me. If an outfield player intentionally punches the ball away from their own goal line, thus preventing a goal, it's a red card offence. If a player punches intentionally the ball over the opposition's goal line, thus scoring a goal, it's a yellow card offence. IT MAKES NO SENSE If you foul someone preventing a goalscoring opportunity, it's a red. If you dive, it's a yellow. In my head the two are comparable to what you are saying, and I have no issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 If you foul someone preventing a goalscoring opportunity, it's a red. If you dive, it's a yellow. In my head the two are comparable to what you are saying, and I have no issue with it. I can see simulation being targeted over the next couple of seasons.... Mainly retrospectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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