peakram Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 For me the Dawkins issue is down to his great controll, pace, vision and lack of end product. If you are looking for a player with good technique and controll you'll see him as a decent footballer. If you want someone to put a good ball in, get a shot off or make a burst through the defence for a 1-on-1 you'll be pretty dissapointed with what Dawkins has to offer. Russell on the other hand tickes the boxes Dawkins struggles with but he uses his pace rather than skill to beat a man. The big difference for me being when we are struggling to get through I feel Russell could always pop up with something but Dawkins doesn't seem to have that in his locker. Its interesting that on stats their goal record is very similar since Russell moved out to play wide, he has scored 5 in that period to Dawkins 4 in a very similar number of games (between 25-30 I think) so although I would agree Russell would appear to have more outright goal threat the figures don't really back that up. All Russell's other goals came when he played more down the middle under Clough. Wide players don't tend to have very high scoring ratios generally apart from the odd one. Perhaps we are misusing the phrase winger in Dawkins case, as he is probably more of a wide midfielder, in that he mostly plays across the pitch in this respect. Certainly the game at Sheffield was his worst to date but rumblings has already started before that yet he clearly for me played better than Russell in both the home games - that is against Rotherham and Rangers (the latter where he was probably MoM). All I can remember about Russell in those games is him continually losing the ball very cheaply which ended with me tearing my hair out and I now hardly have any left! Also how would the crowd have reacted had Dawkins missed those chances Russell missed, not quite as favourably I shouldn't think! But personally would have played Russell at Charlton as he had at least looked lively again coming on as sub (though as we have seen with Sammon that doesn't always translate into playing a good 90 mins in the next match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If I was Dawkins and someone boo'd me, Id jump the barrier and give em the Cantona right in the throat. But im not. So your lucky. No, my guess is that you would go for the AK47 SK47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's doing a signing session tomorrow. Might go along to boo him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Haters gonna hate, and Sammon is gone! Did Dawks flip the travelling fans the bird?? I bloody well hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's doing a singing session tomorrow. Might go along to woo him. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Martin would be the one I would think would do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Revenge is sweet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Revenge is sweet!!yea he missed a sitter before he scored. Fulham were rubbish they just fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 yea he missed a sitter before he scored. Fulham were rubbish they just fell apart. That was a clever pass off the post!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 correct me if im wrong ... weve played 5 matches this season including 1 cup game .... Dawkins hasn't completed the full game in any ....? please read into that what you wish ...yes I will be the first to admit im no admirer of Dawkins ...... but would love him to prove me wrong this season ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 We always sub wingers. Noticed he walked off the pitch straight away at the whistle and McClaren said he really needed that goal. Good lad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Has Russell completed a full game either? Not being funny but just because someone is substituted doesn't necessarily mean they have been poor, its just swapping things around to try and get something different in the game sometimes. Can be that the best players can be subbed off in order to save them for a future match too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 In fact its only recently that Ward has played a full 90 in about a whole year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Not being pedantic ..but Will Hughes hasn't completed every game ... and yes the list could go on ... but imo Smc must see something in Dawkins that others don't ....and will reiterate I hope Dawkins proves me wrong this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 So even in that long unbeaten run when he first came you didn't see owt, very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 emphasis on " WHEN HE FIRST CAME " ..... I did think he did have some qualities .... but when he signed permanently .. imo he didn't appear to have the same qualities .... and since his record proves me right ... but I still hope he proves me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 correct me if im wrong ... weve played 5 matches this season including 1 cup game .... Dawkins hasn't completed the full game in any ....? please read into that what you wish ...yes I will be the first to admit im no admirer of Dawkins ...... but would love him to prove me wrong this season ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No, you are absolutely correct. However, we nearly always substitute one or both wide men. It's probably why we finish matches strongly - fresh creative players running defences ragged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 yea he missed a sitter before he scored. Fulham were rubbish they just fell apart. Haters gonna hate. What about the TWO sitters that Russell missed at Sheffield? Or the open goal that Martin missed yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 the open goal that Martin missed yesterday .... I think Dawkins could have scored that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Dawks didnt need to flip the bird, when he scored yesterday that was his single finger salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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