DcFc Dyycheee Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Please just go home and retire Gerrard, utter garbage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Garbage. Best team won, England got exactly what they deserved. England won't win fook all until they sort out that sh1te defence. I'm not so sure about the ***** defence. It's not great, but we only let two in. We created enough chances to score at least 3. If we win every game 3-2, I'm not complaining. At this level they need to be finishing the chances they create. But, like was often said about Derby last season when we went through the odd dry spell, if we keep creating the chances, we'll eventually finish them, and someone will be on the end of a tonking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Last World Cup - **** 2007/8 premier league season this World Cup - Nigel clough rebuild period next World Cup - Steve maclaren free flowing, opponent demolishers the good times are ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 No plan no threat no hope. Made italy look good. Knock it about a bit, then let johnson fook it up. Why welbeck off instead of spud head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Really? It seems to me that this forum has a simple formula. Losing = crap team. We were far better than normal and the fact is that at this level if you make even small mistakes, you get punished. Italy are no mugs and they took their chances. But we produced loads of chances and didn't take them. Classic Italian performance and win. Routine almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Lambert should start against Uraguay IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 very suspect defence .... Rooney waste of space , best side won ..... oh and Phil Neville you surely put the bore into boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Whoever thought England looked ok must be watching with rose tinted glasses. Our midfield not a patch on Italy's midfield.... Really hope Gerrard clears off after this World Cup. I don't agree with Sterling love in..... We miss Walcott big big big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Classic Italian performance and win. Routine almost. Exactly, didn't have to move out of 1st gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm not so sure about the ***** defence. It's not great, but we only let two in. We created enough chances to score at least 3. If we win every game 3-2, I'm not complaining. At this level they need to be finishing the chances they create. But, like was often said about Derby last season when we went through the odd dry spell, if we keep creating the chances, we'll eventually finish them, and someone will be on the end of a tonking. Italy scored twice and then dropped back after the second goal. I should clarify, by defence, I mean defensive capability - I don't blame Baines for being exposed two-on-one time after time after time, but they exploited that numerous times before the break, and nearly just as many afterwards, including for the second goal. Italy are not a great team, but they're no mugs. I thought they were comfortable winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Last World Cup - **** 2007/8 premier league season this World Cup - Nigel clough rebuild period next World Cup - Steve McClaren free flowing, opponent demolishers the good times are ahead! See, it's easy to make comparisons between the lions and the rams. They should just play the derby starting 11 (except the derby starting 11 is actually the Scotland starting 11). But in 4 years, you've got a midfield with Hughes and Thorne (both well established rams by then of course), and Bucko as next world cup's Lambert story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 That was absolutely pathetic. We played Italy's game. No pressing. Limited counter attacks. Italy are a terrible side. This nonsense of playing for a draw in the WC. What a joke that is. Gerrard was awful. Literally did nothing. George Thorne would have owned that position. No passion what so ever. Rooney out wide on the left. I felt for Baines. Drop Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 And why how many of ours cramped up and NOT one of Italy's didn't......, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Whoever thought England looked ok must be watching with rose tinted glasses. Our midfield not a patch on Italy's midfield.... Really hope Gerrard clears off after this World Cup. I don't agree with Sterling love in..... We miss Walcott big big big time Completely agree. Gerrard and Henderson both deployed as defensive midfielders and Italy practically walked through our midfield time after time. I'd dispense with Gerrard at this point but it'll never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 And why how many of ours cramped up and NOT one of Italy's didn't......, What was that about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Completely agree. Gerrard and Henderson both deployed as defensive midfielders and Italy practically walked through our midfield time after time. I'd dispense with Gerrard at this point but it'll never happen. A good manager would. Who cares if he is your captain. Who cares if Rooney is on £300,000 a week. Just look at Roy. Does he look like a respected, feared, take charge manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 See, it's easy to make comparisons between the lions and the rams. They should just play the derby starting 11 (except the derby starting 11 is actually the Scotland starting 11). But in 4 years, you've got a midfield with Hughes and Thorne (both well established rams by then of course), and Bucko as next world cup's Lambert story. In 4 years tms we should theoretically have one of the best sides going forward, Sturbridge will be hitting his prime, chamberlain Barkley sterling Hughes and Thorne will all have matured and we'll probably have llallana and Henderson hitting their prime, defensively though I'm still not sure, shaw should mature, but I can't really think of much else, possibly Flanagan stones and maybe wisdom, but that will still be no way near what our midfield and attack will be ah well, at least we should see some exciting English football next world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Everyone saying Gerard had a shocker, ROONEY! Fac kin hell the ball to Sturbridge and that's it, couldn't have hit a barn door today, is it even that hard to hit a corner kick that goes in front of the goalposts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Completely agree. Gerrard and Henderson both deployed as defensive midfielders and Italy practically walked through our midfield time after time. I'd dispense with Gerrard at this point but it'll never happen. I imagine Pirlo couldn't have an easier game.... Mind you I do think we can win next two games. Wish we could get rid if Gerrard he holds us back. Not going to happen until after World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 How how how is glen johnson our right back, can't find the words to describe how poor he is, rather play baines on wrong side than see him in a England shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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