StaffsRam Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Nowt sub conscious about it. He was Agent McClaren I tell you. Probably just about the only way that Mac could endear himself to us more than he already has - to come out and admit that he fooked them up on purpose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 To be honest we were THAT bad at times under him you may be onto something. How did he keep his cover when he signed Ishmael Miller on reported 18k a week wages! Thought you had a transfer panel at that point? Or did you get rid of that when you got rid of Davros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 To be honest we were THAT bad at times under him you may be onto something. How did he keep his cover when he signed Ishmael Miller on reported 18k a week wages! To be fair to ISH.. hasn't he nearly outscored all your strikers? well, two less than Henderson and three less than Cox... Oh, he has played 12 games less than them both though. Not to mention he signed the guy fronting your promotion push, lets not forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 To be honest we were THAT bad at times under him you may be onto something. How did he keep his cover when he signed Ishmael Miller on reported 18k a week wages! I was jealous when you signed Miller. Strong, quick and tall. Supposedly a bright future. He's a lazy donkey though ain't he? Signing players is my biggest worry about McClaren. So far, so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Thought you had a transfer panel at that point? Or did you get rid of that when you got rid of Davros? I have no idea, Doughty denied there ever was a panel and it was just an informal process which would have happened at the majority of clubs! Davies always claimed he was just there to "advise and recommend" time and time to the panel and it was nothing to do with him. To be honest any business would thoroughly appraise such cash investments so if it did exist it probably served a good purpose and we signed some very good players at reasonable prices. When Doughty went there was no money so no need for a panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I was jealous when you signed Miller. Strong, quick and tall. Supposedly a bright future. He's a lazy donkey though ain't he? Signing players is my biggest worry about McClaren. So far, so good. He looked alright at first but he was never going to be the answer to our goalscoring problems. With the right attitude he would be a very useful player at this level. He is probably more talented than players like Tudgay or Mackie who have done far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have no idea, Doughty denied there ever was a panel and it was just an informal process which would have happened at the majority of clubs! Davies always claimed he was just there to "advise and recommend" time and time to the panel and it was nothing to do with him. To be honest any business would thoroughly appraise such cash investments so if it did exist it probably served a good purpose and we signed some very good players at reasonable prices. When Doughty went there was no money so no need for a panel. So who was making the decisions at the time of Macca's 'indulgencies'? They were bad moves, but surely given previous experience they weren't just left to the Manager were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 So who was making the decisions at the time of Macca's 'indulgencies'? They were bad moves, but surely given previous experience they weren't just left to the Manager were they? I have no idea, I wouldn't trust anything Davies and Doughty said as both would blame everyone but themselves for their own mistakes and failings. Miller was a panic buy I think when the season had started off so badly. The problem with McClaren at Forest was both he and Doughty rushed it. McClaren did because he was so eager to bounce back from the disappointment of Villa not interviewing him. Doughty just saw him as a top class manager and was desperate to get rid of Davies so thought it would automatically be a success. I don't think either agreed on a strategy to take the club forward and within weeks they were on complete different pages. McClaren wanted a lot of money to strengthen throughout the side and Doughty was not willing or able to provide it. He made other mistakes and the whole thing was just a disaster which could have easily been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Still, it's good that he didn't piss his pants..... I nearly did reading that - but I'm old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I was jealous when you signed Miller. Strong, quick and tall. Supposedly a bright future. He's a lazy donkey though ain't he? Signing players is my biggest worry about McClaren. So far, so good. Mac's only signed Dawkins so far. I think there's a decent player in there who will continue to improve. I'm convinced that Mac and Derby are perfect for each other. We have a board committed to meeting the FFP rules and a manager who is a brilliant coach, got loads of contacts but is probably not the best when money is no object. Mac seems happy and relaxed here, getting a squad with a bottom half wage budget very close to automatic promotion has given him his belief and mojo back. The way he has worked with Clough's team and won the players over, taking them to a new level, is a phenomenal piece of man-management. Even if we don't go up this season i think we'll continue to improve with Mac, Simmo and Eric running the show alongside what is beginning to look more and more like a sensible, well intentioned, in for the long term, ownership. I feel a little bit grubby praising GSE but they are proving, slowly, that they really want a success story to either sell on, or run with in the Prem, without building up huge debts. I genuinely believe we are better ran, better managed and more sustainable going forward than forest are for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think that last sentence goes without saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Seen the highlights. Leicester first goal kamikaze goalkeeping. Strange really because I actually rate Darlow, but people make mistakes. Good header for Forests equalizer. Penalty stonewall but not a red. Sending off, I can see why he gave a straight red to be honest. Leicester penalty may say it's soft but 99/100 that would be a foul anywhere on pitch. Harding got caught wrong side from throw in and blame lies entirely on him for that I'm afraid. That's all from my untrained eye. Don't really know where Davies can blame the referee for any of the major decisions. Seems to be covering up his own failings ( where have I heard that before? ) just an unbiased view of what I saw. Feel free my Forest friends to rip my views apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Davros: “The luckiest player in the City Ground was Wes Morgan, it was a blatant goalscoring opportunity,” said Davies. “He was very fortunate to remain on the pitch". “I had an exchange of words with the referee and asked him why, to which he replied it was not a goal-scoring opportunity. The referee then sent me to the stands, he said I raised my voice. Leicester should not have had 10 men, they should have had nine.” So Davros had a better view of the incident than the referee and obviously Davros is impartial and always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Would have been even more embarrassing to lose a winning position against nine tho .. Careful what you wish for , Billy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Managers have one of the worst views in the ground, always makes me laugh when they kick off about incidents at the other end of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Managers have one of the worst views in the ground, always makes me laugh when they kick off about incidents at the other end of the pitch More so with Davros's snake's eye view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Only one Gump, knew stoners and the others would bottle it, just like the players and manager last night. Respect to Knowle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 More so with Davros's snake's eye view. It is what it is - and he is what he is. A ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Nobody opened the kennel door this morning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Davros is the master of getting sides to finish top 6 in the championship, he can't do **** all else mind but that doesn't stop gumps thinking he is great. No one in football has a good word to say about him, says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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