Curtains Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 RD reporting McClaren has said they are part of the squad now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Great news. Ledz is ten times better than Deeney and Morch. Bailey is excellent cover in the centre of the park. He can sit and hold. Theres no way Eustace can physically play every game. Another one that bully nigel took a dislike to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Great news. Ledz is ten times better than Deeney and Morch. Bailey is excellent cover in the centre of the park. He can sit and hold. Theres no way Eustace can physically play every game. Another one that bully nigel took a dislike to. What do you base your assessment of Morch on? I thought he was very highly rated? Deeney really should not be here much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 What do you base your assessment of Morch on? I thought he was very highly rated?Deeney really should not be here much longer. I hear he's looking at houses in Sheffield already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Another one that bully nigel took a dislike to. Is that a fact or just a best guess? Not being facetious, but I vaguely remember someone saying they had some inside knowledge of what went down beyond the party line of "not good enough to make the team but too good to sit on the bench every week, so may as well try and sell him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 both good squad players at this level and I'd happily see either come in to play when there's injury, suspension or a player in need of a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is that a fact or just a best guess? Not being facetious, but I vaguely remember someone saying they had some inside knowledge of what went down beyond the party line of "not good enough to make the team but too good to sit on the bench every week, so may as well try and sell him" How dare you try and derail a perfectly good character assassination..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 How dare you try and derail a perfectly good character assassination..... you say that, but if someone offers a source, you then want video evidence and a sworn statement! Put it this way, I personally have been told by 6 (current at the time) Derby players over the last 3 years, 4 staff members, parents of 2 academy players (who have now left the Derby academy and moved to Forest and West Brom respectively), and a couple of junior coaches, that Clough was a bully and made the place miserable for the ones who weren't his favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 you say that, but if someone offers a source, you then want video evidence and a sworn statement! Put it this way, I personally have been told by 6 (current at the time) Derby players over the last 3 years, 4 staff members, parents of 2 academy players (who have now left the Derby academy and moved to Forest and West Brom respectively), and a couple of junior coaches, that Clough was a bully and made the place miserable for the ones who weren't his favourites. That kind of makes me like him even more though. It sounds bad but these people aren't his friends, they are his highly paid employees and his neck is on the line if they don't perform or don't do as they're instructed. I'd say it was kind of his job to be ruthless and be the "Boss" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Who cares? Can we please stop talking about NC? Good move by Schteve - both are decent squad players and well worth keeping on the books for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Who cares the ****'s been washed away now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 adds more depth to squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Hasn't Legzdins been very much part of the squad anyway. Bailey was quite a way down the pecking order and will possibly remain so. He has a comfortable way with the ball but tended to lack penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That kind of makes me like him even more though. It sounds bad but these people aren't his friends, they are his highly paid employees and his neck is on the line if they don't perform or don't do as they're instructed. I'd say it was kind of his job to be ruthless and be the "Boss" Which would be fine if they did perform! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Talk of the previous manager being a bully are well wide of the mark. If you gave 100% you were part of the unit. If you lacked the commitment you were outside of it. Same with most clubs and exactly the way it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 you say that, but if someone offers a source, you then want video evidence and a sworn statement! Put it this way, I personally have been told by 6 (current at the time) Derby players over the last 3 years, 4 staff members, parents of 2 academy players (who have now left the Derby academy and moved to Forest and West Brom respectively), and a couple of junior coaches, that Clough was a bully and made the place miserable for the ones who weren't his favourites. If you're not in the first team you'll be unhappy - its human nature! The fact is that both Legs and Bails are Clough signings.....i must have missed the constant transfer requests from them to get away from his "bullying"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Talk of the previous manager bring a bully are well wide of the mark. If you gave 100% you were part of the unit. If you lacked the commitment you were outside of it. Same with most clubs and exactly the way it should be. that would be fair enough, I wouldn't argue with that mindset, however, judging someone's committment and effort is a subjective measure. Where one person thinks for example, Chris Martin is lazy (as many fans did), another might think he's using his intelligent to conserve his energy for a opportunity to use it. Whether it's a good or bad thing, again is down to opinion, but ruling by fear, using aggression and undermining tactics, are pre-historic methods in the workplace now, and football is no longer different. People nowadays know they are entitled to be treated a certain way, and whilst some react to a good (theoretical) kick up the arse, in my experience, the majority react better to good man-management and encouragement over shouting them down in front of their peers. I've probably managed over 400 different people in my career, of differing mindsets, some aggressive themselves, others passive and lacking self-confidence. Football is a confidence + performance fuelled job, it's not like you can hide a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I keep reading that many fans didn't rate Chris Martin on here. I am confused where this is coming from. Is it from the one or two posts referring to him being unfit when he first came or is it from DCFC fans out in the wider world? The vast majority who i know and speak to rate him very highly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 True enough Mostyn - and let's look at Legz and Bailey - they don't look at all like vain, arrogant over-paid tossers at all do they? I think some of them seem to mistake being a sportsman for being a celebrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 True enough Mostyn - and let's look at Legz and Bailey - they don't look at all like vain, arrogant over-paid tossers at all do they? I think some of them seem to mistake being a sportsman for being a celebrity Blimey! Judging people by their hairstyles and suntans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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