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Putting our results through the Albertometer reveals some interesting results....

Fielding or legzdins?

I would have assumed that our results with both players were pretty even....

In fact were were noticeably better with frankie in goal

Winning / drawing with frankie : 69%

Winning / drawings with legzdins 59%

Brayford

I would assume is a vital player......

But Results in the 6 games he missed suggest that we didn't really miss him

Winning / drawing with jb : 63%

Winning / drawing without jb 67%

Roberts or forsyth?

Were we better with forsyth........apparently not.

But we were definitely better without roberts......

Winning / drawing with roberts : 59%

Winning / drawings without roberts 70%

Winning / drawing with Forsyth : 60%

Winning / drawings without forsyth 64%

These stats suggest that forsyth makes no real difference

How good is bucko?

There has been some debate on here as to his value to the team

Winning / drawing with bucko : 66%

Winning / drawings without bucko: 59%

We do seem to be better with him in the team.

Jamie ward

It is generally accepted that we are better with jamie ward.....but actually.......

Winning / drawing with ward : 58%

Winning / drawings without ward 68%

.....we do better without him?

chris martin

Are we a better team with him holding the ball up etc?

Winning / drawing with martin : 59%

Winning / drawings without martin 64%

Maybe not......

Conor sammon

So maybe the stats show the value of conor sammon

......not really

Winning / drawing with sammon : 58%

Winning / drawings without sammon 100%

So.....who makes a positive difference

Surely not.....

Winning / drawing with robinson : 79%

Winning / drawings without robinson 57%

Yes....we are better with theo.

Will hughes

We would probably expect to see that he made a positive difference

...not half....

Winning / drawing with hughes : 67%

Winning / drawings without hughes 54%

Similarly......

Jacobs makes no real difference

Nor does ben davies

But Keogh, coutts, hendrick, and bryson played virtually every match so we can't assess their relative merit.

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Terribly performed and weak analysis. These are the kinds of posts that give stats a bad name. For example, Conor Sammon played in all but one game this season, which was a draw, how on Earth do you expect to draw any conclusions from that?

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Terribly performed and weak analysis. These are the kinds of posts that give stats a bad name. For example, Conor Sammon played in all but one game this season, which was a draw, how on Earth do you expect to draw any conclusions from that?

You of all people should know that stats are a crude indicator and throw up wierd answers.

That was the whole point you numbskull.

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Interesting statistics but not relevant, because they suggest that if one specific player was not playing we may have won the game. Ben Davies made a massive difference this season when he played.

They throw up wierd answers to wierd questions that no one is going to ask.

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Stats are interesting to a point... but then for example, you realise the stat that we are much better with Bucko is mainly due to the fact that if he wasn't playing, f*ck knows who we had the back instead.

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Stats are interesting to a point... but then for example, you realise the stat that we are much better with Bucko is mainly due to the fact that if he wasn't playing, f*ck knows who we had the back instead.

OB was at the back when Bucko wasn't and to be fair he wasn't fit at all this season.

Brayford played in their aswell so I think he made a difference.

The whole season was plagued full of injuries to key players and players who were playing unfit to get us through. If you look at it we had a strike pairing of Sammon who had a lot on his plate with the fans on his back and an unfit Chris Martin up front so with a fit Martin and a striker who can score goals we will be better at defending from the front.

I think the stats are hard to look at to be fair...

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You of all people should know that stats are a crude indicator and throw up wierd answers.

That was the whole point you numbskull.

What you posted was as much of analysis as banging your head into a wall and declaring them dangerous due to risk of injury. There was no insight in what you offered there, in particular the comment about Sammon. One match does not a sample set make.

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I concur they don't show the full story.

I think every derby fan would agree without the Bray we lose that balance down the right hand side.

Properly done statistics can offer some very interesting insight, this was however simplistic and poorly done.

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look at Albert getting all territorial!

 

There's only room for one stat man on this here forum!

 

Can we have a statistical analysis of that, please?

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look at Albert getting all territorial!

 

There's only room for one stat man on this here forum!

I would have honestly loved to see a good stats run down by Ram Nut. This however was not. It's like saying "you like meat don't you" when I've been presented with a plate of green carrion.

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I would have honestly loved to see a good stats run down by Ram Nut. This however was not. It's like saying "you like meat don't you" when I've been presented with a plate of green carrion.

 

I dont know what green carrion is, but I'll click like anyway :D

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Fair play though, the stats are interesting if not pretty useless...

 

I wouldnt mind seeing a stat that says how we got on when we changed formations, i.e. wins away from home in 442 vs 451 and goals scored etc.

 

Having said that, I'll probably be ripped apart for asking for a stat with too many variables and a small sample set...  :wacko:

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