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1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I'm genuinely curious to hear any arguments for keeping Warne beyond "Clowes doesn't want to pay the money to sack him".

I won't argue against any points raised, I just want to hear any sort of defense/reasoning for keeping him.

Beyond any financial reasons I think the only argument for keeping him is that we wouldn't bring in anyone better as a replacement

Just now, Rich3478 said:

It isn’t it but it’s hard to watch games like today and be happy with it. 
Not saying warne has to go now but can’t be many people left who’d miss him if he left? Am pretty sure most managers could get as much from this group of players as warne is.

I wouldn't be shedding any tears if he left, put it that way

I just think we're only a win away from the top six - give him the break to try and sort things out and if we're still as bad afterwards then make a change

2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

If we'd have won we'd have been above them. They are 2nd because we were rubbish.

I think they'll finish top six personally

But we were rubbish you're not wrong

4 minutes ago, GeneralRam said:

It’s not just Bolton thought is it? We’ve been w*** all season with seemingly no improvement or plan.

The fool needs to go.

 

I don't disagree mate, and if he went tonight I wouldn't exactly be heartbroken

Give him the international break to try and sort things out and if we're no better afterwards then I'll be all for getting rid

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

What? They weren't that good. Just because we nearly went bust doesn't mean we have to accept being rubbish!

Today perhaps not, but they are second in the league for a reason and our season isn't going to hinge on away results at sides like Bolton

That said I would keep him for now, it's too early to be changing manager and we were never likely to get anything away at Bolton anyway

I'm not generally someone to call for a manager's head but many is the time under Warne that I've sat there watching us wondering what on Earth the plan actually is

Doesn't help himself either with comments like that about Cashin

He just seems out of his depth here if I'm being honest

As much I hate to give anyone associated with that shower and credit you have to say Cooper has done a fantastic job there

Inevitably he'll go at some point though and they'll drop back down to where they belong

So completely and utterly gutted, particularly given I actually fancied us over two legs against our opponents today... Alas it wasn't to be

But proud of the fact we were in the mix come the final game, especially given the way some people had written off any hope of us going straight back up

The playoffs would've been great but this season was always about steadying the ship and setting the club right, which I think for the most part has happened

And we go again in August

COYR

53 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

Come please this time 

Well he's down to the "final stokes" so...

12 hours ago, Coconut's Beard said:

The indefensiblely uncouth behaviour displayed within their fellowship upon their descent toward an establishment more comfortable with the more civilised citizens of the circumambient conurbation! 

Yes, I did use an online thesaurus to try to find more alliteratively attractive alternative words for 'surrounding' and 'areas'. I could not, however, find one for 'comfortable' which would have been a more appealing linguistic suitor. 

14 minutes ago, Naughty James said:

Everton aren't in "good" condition should they be relegated.  One of the highest spenders in Europe with nothing to show for it, players they'll "struggle" to offload, big "debts" and commitment to building a new stadium.

 

Don't think Rooney would be "offered" the same wages as we're paying and the Everton job would "be" a poisoned chalice.

I "agree"

Can't see us staying up from here. We need to win at least three to equal Reading's 37 points and on top of that match whatever points they get in their remaining games which should be at least a couple of draws on current form.

18 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said:

Inflammatory statement by the EFL. No need for them to make it. Why haven’t  they contacted the club/Quantuma before releasing that? 

How do you know they haven't?

Any update on this?

Just now, StrawHillRam said:

I’m with you

Alright Avril

14 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I don’t agree that people are open to ridicule, I don’t see the need to attack anyone for thinking differently. I do agree that we’re all entitled to our opinion and share yours that we should be pragmatic in our preparations for next season.
It is possible to attempt to gain as many points as possible this season and to shape the squad for next season potentially in league one  (if we get new owners and the so and so’s at the EFL allow us to) at the same time right? If we can negotiate new contracts with some of our current crop, move on them that don’t want to be here and ideally add one or two good prospects from lower leagues/Scotland/the existing pool of free transfers currently available (Andre Wisdom anyone?) whilst going down with a fight, bloodying the noses of a few teams on the way OR even pulling off the miraculous and staying up with the basis of a squad to build on further in the summer.

If we are to get relegated going down with some winning momentum and not with a whimper will help for next season too right? 

Sorry but I can't agree. I think anyone is, and should be, open to ridicule. Particularly if they hold, and put forth, an opinion that is contrary to all available evidence.

But I'm not trying to ridicule anyone, OK I used the word "blind" which was perhaps rather harsh, and I apologise for any offence caused, but we are posting on a thread entitled "I think Derby can stay up" here. Which in my mind is ridiculous. And so I called it out as such.

As I said, if you honestly believe we can stay up then that's fine, and perhaps I need to acquire some similar unfounded optimism from somewhere, but as yet it eludes me.

3 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

 

 

I mean it's not in my nature to do anything other than like a post including Blackadder GIFs

However, perspicacious is actually a word

*anti

12 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

I want the new owners, management and players to believe that whilst ever it’s still mathematically possible then there is a chance, however remote, that we will stay up even if, deep down, they know it’s very unlikely to happen. I think the vast majority of us fans feel that way which I’m not sure you’ve grasped.

There are many things in life which are mathematically possible but are also so unlikely as to make anyone believing they will happen rightly subject to ridicule.

If you want to believe we can stay up then as I've said, fine that's up to you. But I think that's pure fantasy personally. What I want the club to be focusing on is life in League One next season because barring a miracle that's where we will be. And we need to make sure we shore up because it's not beyond the realms of possibility we could slip further down into League Two with all of these sanctions.

I'm not anti-hope, it's just that pragmatism is more helpful at this point.

1 minute ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Thank you for educating me, what an excellent word. I share the sentiment with regards to whoever runs the club. 
As a humble fan I shall carry on my perfectly grounded, far from mentally unbalanced view that the club and team I support (pop that one in t’dictionary) can still mathematically retain its position within the championship, and that due to the points deductions imposed on the club along with the limited options of our playing squad, that outcome is highly unlikely. Yet whilst it may be improbable, I still want it to happen as I stand to defeat nothing in myself in doing so. If and when we do go down I’ll accept that too. Life’s too short.

Fine. Like I said, you do you.

If you want to indulge yourself with silly fantasies about us getting enough points to remain in this league then fine. You do you. But I think ultimately that's self-defeating.

I hope whoever is still running things at the club is rather more perspicacious.

4 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I’m not sure people qualify as blind, maybe optimistic is a more appropriate word. However improbable it is that we will stay up, whilst still mathematically possible I suppose some people want to hold onto some hope. Plenty of bleakness in the world at large, nowt wrong with a tiny bit of hope even if it is unlikely. ? 

OK. Good luck with that.

27 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Ten days ago, did anyone seriously think we'd get 4 points from these 3 games? 

Chin up, fat lass ain't warbling just yet. 

She finished singing weeks ago

It's laughable how blind some people are on here

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

No.