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    Hanny got a reaction from Kathcairns in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Kathcairns in The Administration Thread   
    I refuse to believe any conspiracy theories. Mainly because they just don’t really exist in business. The truth is usually less complex. As in, Ashley tabling bids that are unacceptable, then his pride being hurt and starts telling his PR people to whine about being frozen out. That’s not conspiracy- that’s a pretty logical assumption. 
     
    Logically, Q didn’t talk to anyone because of exclusivity. When they pulled that, they opened comms back up. That’s just the way deals work. 
     
    However, if anyone wanted to rock up at any time with 50million or so in an escrow account, then yes, Q would have at least listened. But nobody has done that.
     
    And now that bids can be made again, but with a floor price set, this should be straightforward. Best bid wins. That is currently CKs bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in The Administration Thread   
    Well- CK would then be within his rights to sue whoever agrees to ‘pull’ his lawfully signed contracts.

    Unless there is a legal date on the deal when it needs to be completed, they all agreed his deal…so it is his until someone out bids him, or CK breaks the contract  
    I obviously don’t know this particular contract. But in general, if all parties have signed. That’s it. They can’t modify or restructure/etc unless CK is deemed to have broken the contract. Again, unless there is a date for the deal to be done, it’s his deal. 
     
    Which is I’m guessing what the EFL and Birch want to find out. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Kathcairns in The Administration Thread   
    Sure. I’m just saying there has been no verified reason reported to suggest CK won’t complete the deal. Funds are there and have been proven. It’s just held up. 
     
    And during the time the funds have been held up, Q made the correct decision to allow others to bid. 
     
    So far nobody else wants to match or better CKs bid. So it’s still his until someone wants to beat his bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from DCFC1388 in The Administration Thread   
    Ostensibly the floor price is set by CKs accepted bid by all parties. 
     
    So:
    1. CKs funds clear and he owns the club.
    2. Someone else outbids him, and they own the club. 
     
    that’s really it. Since his funds have been proven and amounts to be paid agreed. There is no offer below CKs ‘floor’ price that is currently acceptable. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Kathcairns in The Administration Thread   
    My point is that all parties have agreed a floor price with the CK deal. That means they will not accept anything lower.
     
    So there are no more negotiations to be had. Either you meet the floor price or bugger off. 
    And the CK deal will only fall through if he turns out to be a proven criminal and his funds seized. As soon as they clear and hit the bank- it’s done- he’s the owner. 
     
    CK will be the next owner of Derby County, unless someone else decides to outbid him. 
     
    So all this bluster from the PR departments are meaningless.
     
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    Hanny got a reaction from GB SPORTS in The Administration Thread   
    Sure. I’m just saying there has been no verified reason reported to suggest CK won’t complete the deal. Funds are there and have been proven. It’s just held up. 
     
    And during the time the funds have been held up, Q made the correct decision to allow others to bid. 
     
    So far nobody else wants to match or better CKs bid. So it’s still his until someone wants to beat his bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from atherstoneram in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from r_wilcockson in The Administration Thread   
    I refuse to believe any conspiracy theories. Mainly because they just don’t really exist in business. The truth is usually less complex. As in, Ashley tabling bids that are unacceptable, then his pride being hurt and starts telling his PR people to whine about being frozen out. That’s not conspiracy- that’s a pretty logical assumption. 
     
    Logically, Q didn’t talk to anyone because of exclusivity. When they pulled that, they opened comms back up. That’s just the way deals work. 
     
    However, if anyone wanted to rock up at any time with 50million or so in an escrow account, then yes, Q would have at least listened. But nobody has done that.
     
    And now that bids can be made again, but with a floor price set, this should be straightforward. Best bid wins. That is currently CKs bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Chester40 in The Administration Thread   
    I refuse to believe any conspiracy theories. Mainly because they just don’t really exist in business. The truth is usually less complex. As in, Ashley tabling bids that are unacceptable, then his pride being hurt and starts telling his PR people to whine about being frozen out. That’s not conspiracy- that’s a pretty logical assumption. 
     
    Logically, Q didn’t talk to anyone because of exclusivity. When they pulled that, they opened comms back up. That’s just the way deals work. 
     
    However, if anyone wanted to rock up at any time with 50million or so in an escrow account, then yes, Q would have at least listened. But nobody has done that.
     
    And now that bids can be made again, but with a floor price set, this should be straightforward. Best bid wins. That is currently CKs bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Boycie in The Administration Thread   
    I refuse to believe any conspiracy theories. Mainly because they just don’t really exist in business. The truth is usually less complex. As in, Ashley tabling bids that are unacceptable, then his pride being hurt and starts telling his PR people to whine about being frozen out. That’s not conspiracy- that’s a pretty logical assumption. 
     
    Logically, Q didn’t talk to anyone because of exclusivity. When they pulled that, they opened comms back up. That’s just the way deals work. 
     
    However, if anyone wanted to rock up at any time with 50million or so in an escrow account, then yes, Q would have at least listened. But nobody has done that.
     
    And now that bids can be made again, but with a floor price set, this should be straightforward. Best bid wins. That is currently CKs bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Shadowplay in The Administration Thread   
    Sure. I’m just saying there has been no verified reason reported to suggest CK won’t complete the deal. Funds are there and have been proven. It’s just held up. 
     
    And during the time the funds have been held up, Q made the correct decision to allow others to bid. 
     
    So far nobody else wants to match or better CKs bid. So it’s still his until someone wants to beat his bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from DCFC1388 in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from FlyBritishMidland in The Administration Thread   
    I refuse to believe any conspiracy theories. Mainly because they just don’t really exist in business. The truth is usually less complex. As in, Ashley tabling bids that are unacceptable, then his pride being hurt and starts telling his PR people to whine about being frozen out. That’s not conspiracy- that’s a pretty logical assumption. 
     
    Logically, Q didn’t talk to anyone because of exclusivity. When they pulled that, they opened comms back up. That’s just the way deals work. 
     
    However, if anyone wanted to rock up at any time with 50million or so in an escrow account, then yes, Q would have at least listened. But nobody has done that.
     
    And now that bids can be made again, but with a floor price set, this should be straightforward. Best bid wins. That is currently CKs bid. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from S8TY in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from atherstoneram in The Administration Thread   
    My point is that all parties have agreed a floor price with the CK deal. That means they will not accept anything lower.
     
    So there are no more negotiations to be had. Either you meet the floor price or bugger off. 
    And the CK deal will only fall through if he turns out to be a proven criminal and his funds seized. As soon as they clear and hit the bank- it’s done- he’s the owner. 
     
    CK will be the next owner of Derby County, unless someone else decides to outbid him. 
     
    So all this bluster from the PR departments are meaningless.
     
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    Hanny got a reaction from DCFC1388 in The Administration Thread   
    My point is that all parties have agreed a floor price with the CK deal. That means they will not accept anything lower.
     
    So there are no more negotiations to be had. Either you meet the floor price or bugger off. 
    And the CK deal will only fall through if he turns out to be a proven criminal and his funds seized. As soon as they clear and hit the bank- it’s done- he’s the owner. 
     
    CK will be the next owner of Derby County, unless someone else decides to outbid him. 
     
    So all this bluster from the PR departments are meaningless.
     
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    Hanny got a reaction from Comrade 86 in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from TomTom92 in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from GB SPORTS in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Andicis in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Mihangel in The Administration Thread   
    Getting pretty tiresome with the media posts about Ashley (or anyone else) just wanting to be the clubs savior, and how he is ready to go. Bollocks. 
    There is an accepted offer on the table, that has been agreed to by all parties. That sets a floor price.
     
    Yet negotiations are still open, because of the reasons reported. So all he (or anyone else)has to do is match or (more likely) beat the current accepted offer- then he becomes the next owner of Derby County. It’s simple. There are no deals to be had here. A floor price has been established by all parties- so now it’s just best bid wins. 
     
    And the fact he(or anyone else) is not just coming forward with an acceptable offer tells me they are not that serious about being the next owner. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from May Contain Nuts in The Administration Thread   
    I'm seeing others say similar; there are really only two reasons CK will not be the next owner of Derby County: 
    1. He actually turns out to be a money launderer and they seize his funds. 
    2. Someone out-bids him and pays more for the club/debts/bills/etc. 
    That's it. 
    Side note (that will likely get me slagged a wee bit here): 
    Q have been just fine as admins, and the fees they will be paid will be inline with other administrations/etc. They have not hampered anyone from making acceptable bids, they have not deliberately slowed the process from being complete. The only 'favorites' they have picked is the ONLY person to present a viable offer and signed the paperwork. 
     
    Again: if ANYONE else wants to table a bid that matches or is better than CK's I will be delighted! 
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    Hanny got a reaction from May Contain Nuts in The Administration Thread   
    I understand folks are stressed, and as such grasping at whatever straws are available. However, it has been (and continues to be) fairly straight forward. Some key points below. It has to do with money. None of the other fluff matters. Everyone has had a fair chance to buy the club. And if they want to buy the club can do so now with little issue. Any team or group who are kicking up dust on socials, are only doing so for style points. Because the only thing that will close this deal now are dollars handed over. 
    1. Up until the moment of this post (that we are publicly aware of), the only bidder who has made an acceptable offer has been CK. That is why Q gave him exclusivity. 
    2. Any other party was more then able to put forth an acceptable offer...but no one else did. 
    3. Now with the exclusivity over, anyone can again make an offer. But, if it is not an acceptable offer- they can do one. There are no deals to be had here. 
    4. CK has passed all the tests (proof of funds/fit and proper/etc.), and the moment his money clears- CK owns the club. 
    5. If any other bidder would like to beat CK to owning the club, they WILL have to put forth a better offer than CK's. As it is still CK's deal until he is out-bid. Which again is why all the bluster and fluff of anyone (MA) being such a shrewd business man means nothing. Either he pays for the club (an acceptable amount, which has a number attached to it- per the admins) or he stops whinging and walk away. 
     
    I've said it before, I don't really care who ends up owning the club. But The only person who has attempted to (and still likely could) close the deal has been CK. 
     
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    Hanny got a reaction from richinspain in The Administration Thread   
    I understand folks are stressed, and as such grasping at whatever straws are available. However, it has been (and continues to be) fairly straight forward. Some key points below. It has to do with money. None of the other fluff matters. Everyone has had a fair chance to buy the club. And if they want to buy the club can do so now with little issue. Any team or group who are kicking up dust on socials, are only doing so for style points. Because the only thing that will close this deal now are dollars handed over. 
    1. Up until the moment of this post (that we are publicly aware of), the only bidder who has made an acceptable offer has been CK. That is why Q gave him exclusivity. 
    2. Any other party was more then able to put forth an acceptable offer...but no one else did. 
    3. Now with the exclusivity over, anyone can again make an offer. But, if it is not an acceptable offer- they can do one. There are no deals to be had here. 
    4. CK has passed all the tests (proof of funds/fit and proper/etc.), and the moment his money clears- CK owns the club. 
    5. If any other bidder would like to beat CK to owning the club, they WILL have to put forth a better offer than CK's. As it is still CK's deal until he is out-bid. Which again is why all the bluster and fluff of anyone (MA) being such a shrewd business man means nothing. Either he pays for the club (an acceptable amount, which has a number attached to it- per the admins) or he stops whinging and walk away. 
     
    I've said it before, I don't really care who ends up owning the club. But The only person who has attempted to (and still likely could) close the deal has been CK. 
     
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