Gee SCREAMER !!

No surprise. How much are they paying Wing as he had championship offers. Madness

Do you not think their wages were at least covered by those profits or did Mel set fire to it ? Mel took his cash away as he got bored and even more bored with batting the EFL. Life's too short too keep battling this laughable argument when your rewriting history and misquoting transfers fees on just two players. Bit poor to bring cancer into a football argument as well to score points. Leaves me a bit cold so I'll leave you to it.

We made 6 million on Ince and nearly 4 on Vydra. We also made16 on two academy players. Derby were relegated because the owner decided not to pay his bill and the EFL retrospectively reared us. Whether he spent a billion or a thousand makes no difference. Your argument holds no water.

Know we hadn't. Loopholes yes as used by every club from loaning 10 million quid players from parent clubs, selling a stadium to a family member, claiming you've overspent as you would have sold 30 million quid of youngsters if not for covid, putting your debt into another business you own, converting debt into shares you then sell to yourself at a higher rate than the debt. etc. Ours was signed off and minimal in comparison to most of these whoppers. The rules were retrospectively changed after the EFL dragged us through the gutter, they then changed the rules further to give breathing space to clubs for covid on accounts we'd already lost points for. We did not break any rules as ratified by an independent accountant at our first hearing, before the EFL's handpicked witchhunt. You've added about 5 million on to that recruitment bill as well. Take off another 6.2 mill for player sales on top. Not that excessive for 9 players. We got relegated because a bloke worth twice our current chairman wouldn't foot the bill he needed to pay. If he had, he'd have got most of it back on the club sale. He got bored with his toy. Nothing to do with recruitment.

Think so. The MP who they offered a place on the board too stated that as a young lad he watched Forest and Notts county but if he wanted a treat, he'd head over the border to watch the real big team in the region Derby County. Good old Ken Clarke. Can almost forgive him being a council tax leach for that peach at the start of his autobiography.

Seeing as it's peed off the self appointed greatest and most deserving fans in the world- 16'000 when I went there when they were struggling in the early 90's and less the following week without a big away following- I'll give VAR a pass.

Far as I can see XG has no relation to a bloke with a few hundred million who decided to head off rather than covering debt he'd ran up or a tiresome twosome chasing the ambulance, or indeed a pissed off EFL having a wet dream over how they could retrospectively f*** up a club for years by enforcing accounting rules which didn't exist. Clubs buy crap players all the time and spend crazy wages. For a few years they are well up like Southampton and then they're not. Leicester won the league with Huth, Mahrez, Kante and Vardy who cost a bag of sherbet. Then they were millions in the crap. Statistics make no difference and I certainly wouldn't need them too let me know Blackman, Butterfield and Anya were crap buys, just the eyes I'd seen them with.

We're in the 3rd division as the previous owner put us into administration. The EFL then took a chance to stick the boot in by stopping us keeping a 40 year old player, whilst allowing others under embargo to bring in large scale loan reinforcement and also stopped us giving proper contracts to kids on minimal wage that would have expedited a swifter return on relegation, whilst dumping 9 more points of deduction based on accounting rules that didn't exist. They followed this up by allowing a couple of chancers to go the faux 'revenge' mission, holding up any sale that may have given us a chance and forcing a sale of the best youngsters and Shinnie for some magic beans.

I see all those players that Reading have been allowed to sign under their 'embargo that was clearly going to be broken' at the start of the season have riden to their rescue over the last 2 games. Total farce.

Under Smith we looked a million miles above the rest for about 8 games till New years day where we won but struggled against Norwich. Then it was all a bit tighter performance wise for a bit but we looked better than most and did 20 without losing. I can't see that in this side, as we don't have enough up top or a good enough mix of muscle and technique in midfield or behind the striker. Second would exceed what's currently in the squad without some additions.

Foul on Fornah. Corner to Port Vale. Calamity ref

I don't know why he was playing internationals when he'd been out for a month and wasn't anywhere near up to match fitness. All a bit piss poor as we have a half fit Waghorn and the invisible man as other options.

Turning your back to a player, kicking it from the side and running onto our own ball, only works more than once if your Maradona or playing at U12 level. He needs to work on another trick when pushing up.

pretty average. 1-0l written all over . Ref will most likely cause the 1-0 win too them with a s**** decision from what I've seen.

John Lydon was due to get that plane but his wife left her passport behind and they couldn't board. Lucky twist of fate for him. Never know what's going to transpire.

Bit off a weird one with young players. Don't really know how good they'll turn out. Derby let Paul Blades 'go' for a few hours as they thought he might not be good enough to play Division 3 level. Till Man Utd said if you don't want him we'll have him. That paperwork never got finalised. Rooney was letting Cashin go to bring in another player under embargo. At the other end I remember us signing Moukako who was wanted by half the big sides in Europe. Think he wound up at Accrington or somewhere. Best bet is to give as many as possible 10 mins if they look reasonable to maximise an already paltry development fee.

Always struggled with the bruisers. McClarens tactic against the Hanleys of the world, was to let Martin battle away without much joy till 60 minutes and then bring on the often maligned Sammon to knock crap out of them and run them into uncomfortable positions leaving space for Martin and midfield runners against tired defenders. Worked well normally.

Don't forget the sending out on loan for a couple of seasons to get back any fee laid out first.

As far as I've been told this lad basically had to be pushed out the door. I'll give you the other two. It's almost as if having a Cat 1 academy highlights the better players and you're better off not bothering at a cost of millions. Hendrick, Huddlestone, Hughes etc would have been gone before they kicked a ball for us.

They've named a stand after him already. Best one in the place. It's a beauty.

I think he should get it for that marvellous performance against Blackburn where he looked like a giant blueberry about to burst and cost us 2 goals in the first 30 minutes. I'm not sure I've ever seen a player in such appalling shape run out for a game of football . It was disgraceful.

Coventry, QPR, Sheff Wed, Huddersfield, Birmingham and a Rotherham who know our manager inside out all looking favourites to contest that drop at the minute. That's a tough selection to navigate as well as a Bolton, Barnsley, Peterborough, free spending Oxford etc of whom two or three will probably be still here. No bankrupt Readings or minus point Wigans next time round.

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To be fair, he was very good as you'd expect with all those professional games. At the time I was 21, quick and quite handy. Not normally centre forward but filling in. Gave him the run around for 10 minutes till he got his positioning and he could read the space I was moving into to without needing to do much chasing. Didn't get much change after that. I'm pretty sure Larry Lloyd played in that game as well. He waxes lyrical about his distaste for Derby, yet for some reason he spends his entire feckin life here. Even the teams he played for. I'm sure the photos in question would show a Derby Tattoo he's kept secret all these years.

I actually thought we'd probably lose to Villa as they were flying and was even more in that camp when I saw the starting line up . Roos pissed me off making it easy for them and I got more pissed off when Marriott came on and Mings s*** his pants for 25 minutes, when he'd previously spent the game pushed up on the halfway line scratching his arse. Was always going to be a tight game though in the toughest playoff set of teams I can remember. The QPR and Leicester ones were proper awful as I'm sure in both cases we'd have stayed up and built. Redemption was quick after Leicester. Not after QPR. We had a real chance in the year we played Hull and should have gone up. That Ipswich injury too Thorne was crucial, followed by the ridiculous 3rd Hull goal at the end of the game at home. They were crap.