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1 minute ago, Andicis said:

He does dive into challenges, and he is over eager. But you know what? He actually has attacking instincts, he wants to go forward. He wants to score goals. That is *exactly* the kind of player we need in the team right now. I don't care if he isn't perfectly disciplined defensively. 

I did say id rather see him play and in his right position ?‍♂️

I think we overrate him because he is one of our own and a young prospect. Every young player that comes through our fans over rate. 

Giles Barnes, Will Hughes, huddlestone and bennett when he came through. Some have been talented some not as much but everyone of them over hyped.

Sibley is a prospect. He dives into challenges over eager & gives away silly free kicks. Saying that id rather him play over waghorn. Id also rather see players in their best positions. Round pegs in round holes 

If he carries on he'll get a move and become a regular England International in a few years. We have an embarrassment of riches at RB & he only needs to be better than shaw, chilwell & trippier playing out of position. I honestly think if he had a season in the prem he wouldn't be far away from the squad. 

He can do everything, good in the air, good at tackling, pace to get forward & can put in a decent cross.

Are we sure he's the best 16 year old in the country or have we just made that up & said that to move him on? 

He must be a good prospect for united & Liverpool to be interested, but they'd probably poach most half decent 16 year olds given half the chance in the hope they make it. 

If they make it then its a good gamble paid off. If they dont then they sell the next solanke or ibe to Bournemouth for an inflated fee & see a big return

There have been loads of kids that are apparently the next big thing & drop off. There is more chance of him not making it than making it at the highest level. People develop at different rates and the best 16 yr old now might not be the best 18 or 20 year old in a few years. 

For all we know liam delap & Gordon could be the next best think or they end up having a few loan moves & end up being the next harry Wilson or Patrick bamford carving out decent careers but not setting the world alight

Id take the money. We need it, Gordon potential & long term. We need money to sort our short term future out

9 hours ago, rammieib said:

And if he doesn't actually want to sign pro terms with us, what other option do we have?

I don't think £1 Million is bad business especially if there are plenty of additional fees linked.

How often do these star players at this age actually go on and become stars. 1 in 50 chance?

Go back ten years and find an England Under 21 team. I would guess most are not longer playing Prem Football.

Go back ten years and find an England Under 16 team and see how many are are playing Prem football? I bet none are.

 

In fact - here you go - this is from 2013 England under 16's - how many have become stars? I think 3 are in the Premiership today and none of them have played for England. Three quarters of them I don't even know.

Goalkeepers

Sam Howes   West Ham United U2110/11/1997

Ryan Sandford   21/02/1999

Lewis Ward   Reading FC05/03/1997
 

Defender

Tosin Adarabioyo   Manchester City24/09/1997

Tom Brewitt   11/02/1997

Kyle Cameron   Newcastle United15/01/1997

Archie Edwards   10/07/1997

Mandela Egbo   Crystal Palace17/08/1997

Tafari Moore   Arsenal FC05/07/1997

Reece Oxford   West Ham United16/12/1998

Ro-Shaun Williams   03/09/1998

James Yates   03/04/1998

 

Midfielder

Isaac Christie-Davies   Chelsea FC18/10/1997

Lewis Cook   Leeds United (R)03/02/1997

Tom Davies   Everton FC30/06/1998

Ryan Ledson   Everton FC U2119/08/1997

Max Lowe   Derby County11/05/1997

William Patching   18/10/1998

Adam Phillips   15/01/1998

Patrick Roberts   Fulham FC05/02/1997
 

Forward

Adam Armstrong   Newcastle United U2110/02/1997

Ben Cullen   24/09/1989

Kaylen Hinds   Arsenal FC28/01/1998

Demetri Mitchell   Manchester United11/01/1997

Layton Ndukwu   07/09/1998

Joshua Onomah   Tottenham Hotspur U2127/04/1997

Giorgio Rasulo   Milton Keynes Dons23/01/1997

Dominic Solanke   Chelsea FC U2114/09/1997

Charlie Wakefield   Chelsea FC10/04/1998

Believe it or not lewis cook has played for England & was on the standby list for the world cup

I agee with your point though not many go on to do much & getting an England cap says more about the state of the national team at times

He's already better than max lowe ever was 

I can't see him coming back but id have him back in an instant. Best centre back we've had and still better than what we currently have. Can bring the ball out of defence rather than clarke & wisdom passing in square to each other. Probably miss him as a leader. On reflection we probably shouldn't have sacked him. Easy to say now but i think it upset the team quite a bit.

Its pointless getting annoyed at it anymore. 

If he's that good we need to keep him & integrate him into the first team over the next couple of years. Its not going to happen though. Were in a terrible position financially & any reasonable offer for anyone will probably be accepted. It doesn't make it any less annoying im quite angry about it, but if you just accept this is whats going to happen might make it easier 

2 hours ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said:

After reading the comments on here, had to buy myself a copy, looking forward to getting stuck into it!

Same the comments have sold it me. Going to order one this morning 

In the nicest possible way he adds that bit of horrible-ness we have been missing a bit of steel & fight. I like how he encourages others but what i really like he's a player that wont be bullied 

Good to see were linked with another big named youngster who's scored a load of goals.

Another potential signing to excite the fans ? can't wait until we get this one over the line. 

I'd rather we played like Bielsa & Leeds. Fast paced, comit men forward. 

Id rather perform like they did against Liverpool & lose 4-3 than perfom like we did against Reading 

If wilder manages to beat fury he’ll be able to demand more of the purse when/ if he fights AJ 

fancy fury to won though if its the fury from a couple of years ago that turns up

Bellew is going to be even more unbeareable now ... dont like Haye but i cant Stand Bellew.

I genuinely Think he doesnt win another fight at heavyweight, not against someone proper, haye was totally shot & time to call it a day his body has just fallen apart last few years & last night he made Bellew look good 

He wont beat a fully fit fury but depends if fury can comeback after the layoff,

i think even the david haye of 5-6 years ago beats AJ on that performance.

I think AJ looked better when he was a bit more wild and inexperianced it was a terrible fight tonight & made worse by the ref 

2 minutes ago, ramsbottom said:

What times the fight scheduled to start??

Reckon it will be about 10:30ish

I use the phone app ... the sound has been perfect every game ive listened too & cant fault the app miles better than the football league one of last season 

I still think whyte beats Wilder & Wilder knows it hence the ducking

if you deep down think you’re going to lose then you may as well lose to Joshua (the bigger payday) than whyte.

I also think whyte ups his game against the better fighters & would knock wilder out. I genunely think he’s in of the hardest heavyweights. Not the best boxer in the division, far from it but just comes across that he loves fighting & would love a tear up in the street with anyone 

On that Joshua performance & the klitschko one i think AJ gets beat by a fit Fury (if he can get fit) 

Understand you can only beat whats in front of you & he’d shown heart etc. He was tested against klitschko & its what we all wanted, but it was a 41 year old klitschko who had in my opinion had only got worse with age not better. Whilst it was entertaining & a brilliant win on the night i think it raised more questions over joshua who’s been rocked by Whyte & Klitschko. 

I think Joshua will smoke Wilder because i think Wilder is rubbish. Even Whyte will probably beat Wilder but an awkward, fit fury could be an issue for Joshua  

Its crap... signed up for the audio didnt work on the phone dont really want to be digging the laptop out every time a games on 

2 minutes ago, dcfcfan1 said:

lets be honest, none of them are great. Just entertaining, thats all. 

To be fair bellew has never been great but Haye in his day 'was' great. In his prime he was a bloody good boxer. I still think a prime david haye would beat joshua... he wouldnt now but i think in his prime he was made for him.

Even thought he's abit of a bell its a shame to see haye go out like that 

This is fantastic haye showing some balls just shows how poor bellew is cant finish off a one legged man 

Bellew is in for the shock of his life when he gets in the ring tommorrow with someone as quick & as powerful as Haye

bellew looked terrified at the weigh in & the sparring partners he got in are nothing like haye. He can keep saying haye isnt a full sized heavyweight that is true but its still a total mismatch. They can go on about ring rust but the worst version of Haye beats the best of bellew. He does everything better, more speed, more power & better footwork 

I always usually want Haye to lose, i cant stand the man But in this fight id rather he win, i hate bellew far more.

all those scousers at the press conference shouting out thinking they're funny. Haye was right to call them a bunch of retards i really hope he puts Bellew away early. He'll beat him by KO miles better boxer, technically better, bigger & stronger 

Its been a bit icey today & one thing that cheers me up is when people fall over (not hurt fallen over) but sometimes there is nothing funnier than watching a good tumble