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To be fair, it must be genuine given he had to go off.

Not going tonight so I’ll have the England game on mute on the TV and Derby on RamsTV on my laptop. Hopefully plenty to cheer in one of the games.

But can’t you remember vile racist and homophobic language back in the day that is nowhere near as prevalent now? My view is, taking into account selective memory, the songs and chants have changed and, at times are still extremely distasteful but, on the whole isn’t quite as bad as it used to be. It may feel worse now but perhaps that is partly down to me being a little more oblivious to the bad language when I was a teenager on the popside compared to now being in my more senior years thinking I’m glad my grandson isn’t here to hear this.

Missing the fact that our defending was sufficiently good enough compared to their attacking to prevent them scoring more than two goals and our attacking was sufficiently good enough compared to their defending to enable us to score four goals. There was only one of our goals that had an element of luck about it and I can’t recall any Peterborough attempts where a goal was avoided by luck. The result was a reflection of how each team managed to convert their chances whilst they were on top. Whichever way you cut it the quality of the attacking and defending of each team is a subjective opinion. I really don’t get your first point about equal teams scoring the same number of goals and splitting it into blocks etc. Yo’ve completely lost me there. Also, the scale of an earthquake is defined by the measured scale of its tremors (or something like that). It is an objective and measurable scale. I don’t know how on earth you can compare them to near goal attempts.

In the Rooney season, I’m not sure it was so much belief or buying into what they were trying to do but more about us v the EFL. It’s easier to make a lot of noise (and forgive poor performances/results) when you’re aggrieved and have a common foe. I bet pretty every song was either “Fxxx the EFL” or “They docked us 21 points”.😀. Regarding this season, I reckon there have been worse or equally “poor” atmospheres over the years.

How do you define a "near goal event"? Surely that has to be subjective (and irrelevant if you don't actually score). Does having more so called near goal events (when added to actual goals scored) than the opposition mean you deserved to win? Surely not. If an attacking team has a very good goal scoring change (presumably a near goal event 🤷) but a goal is prevented by good but maybe last ditch defending, that's not luck or suggests the attacking team deserved to score.

It’s the whole upper tier that will be safe standing isn’t it? Therefore, they will not impact the view of anyone in non safe standing areas. The only issue is anyone currently sitting in an area that will become safe standing. Unfortunately, the club is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. There seems to be plenty of demand for a safe standing area which the club needs to place somewhere. I must confess I’m a NIMBY and glad it isn’t happening where I’m sitting but, if it did, I guess I’d just relocate which is what I assume the club will offer to any impacted season ticket holders.

I love an optimist. 😀

How do you define “lucky”, “unlucky” or what a team “deserves”? Are you saying we were lucky against Peterborough, Blackpool and Bristol in particular? If so, on what basis? I don’t know how you can say your assessment is more accurate than actual achievements when it’s based on something as subjective your opinion on luck. Maybe I’m completely misreading your post.

The opposite of some forum members then (not naming names). 😀

I agree there is no such thing as a “good war” but I think there is what could be described as a “just cause”. Therefore, I wouldn’t describe every soldier that has ever killed another person as a murderer. Also, I’m no psychiatrist but I would disagree with your statement that the reason many veterans don’t talk about their experiences and suicides are common is because they feel shame or feel like a murderer. I would imagine that, for any civilised person, the taking of another persons life under any circumstances is pretty traumatic. Even if it was done in pure self defence or to protect a loved one I doubt many would be unmoved by the event. When you add that experience to the general horrors of war, I think it’s not surprising that so many veterans struggle.

I wouldn’t describe the game, or the league in general, as “boring”. Just short on quality. Last season, I went to a Tamworth game and difference in quality between that league and ours was even more obvious than that between the Championship and League 1. But I enjoyed the game perhaps partly because I was a relative neutral and could just enjoy/cheer/laugh at what I was watching. Same with if I was watching a game down the park on a Sunday morning. It wouldn’t be champagne football but there would probably be goals, goal scoring opportunities, penalty area scrambles, good tackles, missed tackles, the occasional good passage of play etc that would keep me off my mobile phone. Maybe some of us are, understandably, allowing our enjoyment of the games to be marred by our desire to see Derby win and win handsomely and confusing lack of enjoyment with boredom. 🤷🏻

Yes. JJ certainly looked like a pub team player there. 😀

No

Got a horrible feeling about this one 🙁. Come on Derby, settle my nerves.

I’d agree. The other thing with him is that whilst I rate him, he does seem a bit one footed.

We know you are but thanks for reminding us anyway.

Doesn’t look as if Nyambe is having one of his better games.

Massey looks a bit of a menace on their right.

Out of interest, I took a quick look at their ticket prices for their home game against Lincoln and it looked to me as if it’s £25 for adults everywhere in the stadium.

Are you seriously suggesting, regardless of how he’s being treated at Old Trafford, that we should be in the market for players like Mount. Hilarious.

Maybe. But maybe on another day Bird might have scored when clean through (only denied a shot or a penalty by an outstanding piece of defending) and Sibley might have sneaked his effort under the goalkeeper when also through one on one. It was neither a great game or a great performance but if we’re going to play the “on another day” game perhaps we should apply it with a little more balance.

Just goes to show we’ve got more class than Everton fans. 😀 Protesting in the ground isn’t going to change the decision and it’s hard to know if being “bedlam” helps the team or not.

What @Mucker1884 said.