Tamworthram

Interesting and convenient that you've chosen 7 as your measure of away form (are you sure even that is correct? Haven't they won 3 of their last 7 away league games?). A shorter period shows unbeaten in their last three (before today) with two wins. A longer period shows 5 wins of their last 10. But hey ho, let's not a few facts get in the way of your continued criticism of the manager.

When he said “we’ve got a good shape about ourselves”, I assume he wasn’t referring to himself.😅

Apart from the occasional, and understandable, lapses I thought the supporters were excellent from the start.

Can’t you give it a rest just for once? We’re in league 1 with a good deal of league 1 players. Stevenage may not be Man City but they’re in the fight for the play offs. When you add in the number of injuries we have at the moment, especially up front, then I think the whole team (including the coaching staff) deserve some credit for grinding out a win against a team with one of the best away records.

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Why? Surely it would still leave Stevenage pondering for today’s game?

Does it cover pre-existing conditions (unlike a lot of insurance)? If not, we may need to rethink recruitment policy given the number of crocks we seem to sign. 😊

Yes, I remember him saying we wouldn’t suffer financially as as result of one of the injuries.

I’m not sure “brilliant” is the right word if he’s out for 4 weeks but certainly less bad than the whole season.

I really don’t understand your point or what you expect. Aren’t most goals “individual moments”? What were the three goals prime examples of? The three different players were directly involved (Bird, NML and Barks) annd only the first was annything like a solo effort although others contributed (for example Elder’s run off the ball for the first). I don’t know what the team could have done differently in order to display this elusive “identity” you crave.

Unless he plays then we’ll know it’s not bad at all at 2pm. 😉

Isn't the preference to get the ball out wide as often and quickly as possible and getting crosses in a "way of playing as a team" just as much as any other way you might be able to come up with? Isn't that a pattern of play (whether we like it or not)? I'm not convinced we have any less of a defined "way of playing" or are reliant on individual moments than most teams.

So no change for those of us without Sky Sport or BT Sport? No change for me then. Man United games will always be screened (yawn) regardless of who they are playing, I’ll watch the occasional game on the BBC or ITV, one of the big 5 or 6 teams will win it and Derby will be knocked out in the first round they play in (second if we get lucky). Rinse and repeat.

How do you define an identity then for a team? Sounds like just one those catchphrases that don’t actually mean anything.

Do you have reasonable grounds for thinking he might be?

I was having a bit of a laugh (hence the laughing face) at the fact that instead of saying he'd picked up a knock that was being assessed he said he could play Saturday or could be out for the rest of the season. Kind of stating the obvious. But never mind.

So essentially, the worry is that Collins could be out injured for zero games, the whole season, or somewhere in between? Talk about hedging your bets. 😀

That’s your opinion. 😀

100% option A. We then reset in terms of the objectives PW is set. Option B might appeal to some that just want him gone (for a variety of reasons including brand of football played, utilising and developing younger players, ability to keep us in the Championship or even to get us into the Premier League which seems to have become a new favourite amongst some) but it would interesting to know who they think would get us promoted, is available and would be prepared to take the job on.

I think some people are just getting their ducks in a row ready to continue criticising Warne even if he gets us promoted and to become an established Championship team. Perhaps they're beginning to worry. 😀

It's very disappointing to here PW has set the players such a target. Why do it? why not, as the saying goes, "take it one game at a time" and have a target of winning each game as it comes along? I have been, and remain, largely supportive of Warne but this doesn't sound like the smartest thing to have said to the players even if in his own mind he thinks 10 wins will be enough.

Yes. Contact the club and get yourself on it. If any tickets are returned (because the original purchaser can no longer go for example) the club offer them to people on the list. I managed to get one for Burton, on the day before the game, by this means. One challenge you’d have though is that I think they generally have to be collected from PP (if there isn’t enough time to post them). For Burton I could collect mine from the Pirelli but I don’t know how common that is.

Warne’s current remit is to get us promoted to the Championship and become an established Championship team. Getting back into the PL is a long term goal which we can worry about further down the line. I really don’t understand why you think DC would or should sack the manager he appointed on a long term contract if he achieves the first of those objectives but was not given the chance to achieve the second. I’m not overly confident that PW will do well for us in the Championship but I definitely think he would have earned the right to have a crack at it. I’m pretty confident that DC does as well. My gut feeling is that the only way PW will be sacked before his contract expires is 1) we miss out on the play offs this year AND plummet down the league [neither of those are looking likely], 2) we narrowly miss out this season AND are not seriously in the mix after a dozen games or so next season, or 3) we get promoted but really struggle and find ourselves in a relegation battle. The third scenario is the most likely but heck, whatever some of us may think of his tactics or management style, or how much reliance we attach to his track record at Rotherham, he deserves the right to have a go. edit: I’d go as far as saying getting back into the PL is more of an aspiration than a target at the moment and certainly not something that would be on a managers list of measurable objectives right now.

Weird thing for him to say especially publicly. The target should be 14 wins.

I understand your concerns and thinking but have you ever known a manager get sacked (other than for non football related issues) as soon as he gets him team promoted (apart from Darren Moore and that was an insane decision)? Whatever you might think of his abilities I reckon DC, along with a lot of other people, will think he has earned, and deserves, the right to give it a go in the Championship. Regarding the top teams in the Championship, you can exclude Leicester, Leeds and Southampton from any stats. As usual, most teams relegated from the Prem have an unfair advantage. I have no idea how we'll fair in the Championship (if we go up) but I think DC is a man of some integrity that will keep the manager he gave a long term contract to on unless things do go belly up very quickly. Sorry, but whatever you, or any other anti Warne supporters think or want, I can't see DC sacking him in the summer if he gets us promoted. That's why I would be stunned, not because of what any of us on this forum think will happen.