Jourdan

I think Warne has taken the job knowing that should he take us back to the Championship, he is going to have far more flexibility than he ever did at Rotherham.
It’s one step back at the current time, but potentially 10 steps forward if he can get it right here.
I would expect us to need a season to stabilise ourselves back in the Championship, so I hope we stay grounded in our expectations.
The pressure will come once we’ve done that. Can he keep pace with growing expectations? That is the worry for me - the expectations from the fans as we reach a more familiar position could swallow him up.
Saying that he seems like he enjoys proving people wrong and I think he has already shown that he is adaptable and that he can find solutions to problems from within, both in terms of tactics and personnel.
My confidence in him is growing with each passing game, but it is fair to say there are greater challenges ahead.

I think Warne has taken the job knowing that should he take us back to the Championship, he is going to have far more flexibility than he ever did at Rotherham.
It’s one step back at the current time, but potentially 10 steps forward if he can get it right here.
I would expect us to need a season to stabilise ourselves back in the Championship, so I hope we stay grounded in our expectations.
The pressure will come once we’ve done that. Can he keep pace with growing expectations? That is the worry for me - the expectations from the fans as we reach a more familiar position could swallow him up.
Saying that he seems like he enjoys proving people wrong and I think he has already shown that he is adaptable and that he can find solutions to problems from within, both in terms of tactics and personnel.
My confidence in him is growing with each passing game, but it is fair to say there are greater challenges ahead.

I think Warne has taken the job knowing that should he take us back to the Championship, he is going to have far more flexibility than he ever did at Rotherham.
It’s one step back at the current time, but potentially 10 steps forward if he can get it right here.
I would expect us to need a season to stabilise ourselves back in the Championship, so I hope we stay grounded in our expectations.
The pressure will come once we’ve done that. Can he keep pace with growing expectations? That is the worry for me - the expectations from the fans as we reach a more familiar position could swallow him up.
Saying that he seems like he enjoys proving people wrong and I think he has already shown that he is adaptable and that he can find solutions to problems from within, both in terms of tactics and personnel.
My confidence in him is growing with each passing game, but it is fair to say there are greater challenges ahead.

Cocu was out of work for two years until recently. He was given the job at Vitesse, a club he previously played for. Why? Consider that Cocu had had previous success with a much bigger club in Dutch football in PSV, so why would he take a step down?
Rooney was given the job at DC United, a club he previously played for. Why? If Rooney’s reputation had been so enhanced, why would he go to a team rooted to the bottom of the MLS? Surely there were better options out there?
Rosenior was given a chance at Hull, a club he previously played for. Why? If people in football circles appreciated his work at Derby, why wouldn’t he wait for a better offer?
All three clubs were struggling at the time and obviously having a familiar face in charge would encourage patience and goodwill in difficult times, so you can understand it from the clubs’ point of view.
But if these managers had done such commendable work at Derby, why are they where they are?

He tends to start games with a more direct approach, then begin to mix it up with shorter balls. The squad does both pretty well.  I think defenders find the mixing it up hard to deal with and we’re less vulnerable to a strong press than we were under Rooney and LR. (Not that there are many of those in this div). PV were fresher than us on Tuesday so we had less possession than we’d expect and as you mention the pitch just got worse and worse.  I think he’s got us playing plenty of attractive football and he’s more or less getting the best out of the squad. 

I would have to say,that you need to watch more of how derby now play.....
Derby v Bolton was more indicative of our style when we play a game on a pitch that doesn't resemble a ploughed field.
I've watched every game this season and I have been impressed how we have developed into a high energy,high pressing tram with some lovely football being played.
Warne is nothing but adaptable though and can turn his hand at playing the rough and tumble sides as well as the league's high flyers.

Players aside, the best thing about the Rooney team was Liam, oh and Rooney’s PR adviser. Look at the club’s culture now and think what it would have been like under Kirchner and Rooney, with Stretford pulling the strings. Lucky escape, Mike Ashley would have been preferable imho.
 
For many you mention I think the proud support for Rooney was mostly proud support for a club under siege. And looking back I think many see Rooney as an abysmal managerial appointment and near the top of the list of major misjudgements by Mel Morris 
I’d far rather be in div 1 under Warne than in the championship under Rooney 

You are right, but it’s the nature of the forum sometimes. We still love being on here, for better or for worse.
Some of the comments I’ve had directed towards me just for holding one opinion or another have been genuinely horrible. But we’re all passionate and emotional people and sometimes it can spill over.
For example, had we gone on to achieve success under Cocu, Rooney or Rosenior, there would have been comments singling me out, of that I am sure. ’Jourdan must be devastated...’ and so on.
This will all be forgotten about when McGoldrick puts us 3-0 up v West Ham.

Bloody hell ,, an argument on the forum im not in the thick of ,, I must be slipping 

Read the tone of @LeedsCityRam’s post above and you’ll understand what naming names leads too. It’s antagonistic.
The fact that @Carl Sagan took the time and was able to quote multiple posters’ comments shows what I am saying obviously has some weight.
But please continue trying to score points if you must.

He was in a no-lose situation.
He had a lengthy contract with the club. He was in a job at a very good level despite limited to no coaching experience.
I’ve never really understood the fawning over Rooney. He gave it a good go at keeping us up and created a siege mentality, as all managers would attempt to do.
I could understand the adulation if he had stayed with the club up to now and was leading the charge back into the Championship. But he left pretty sharpishly.
David Clowes was instrumental in keeping the club alive. Rooney was simply doing what was in his interests.
Perhaps I am wrong but that’s the way it seemed.

Cocu was out of work for two years until recently. He was given the job at Vitesse, a club he previously played for. Why? Consider that Cocu had had previous success with a much bigger club in Dutch football in PSV, so why would he take a step down?
Rooney was given the job at DC United, a club he previously played for. Why? If Rooney’s reputation had been so enhanced, why would he go to a team rooted to the bottom of the MLS? Surely there were better options out there?
Rosenior was given a chance at Hull, a club he previously played for. Why? If people in football circles appreciated his work at Derby, why wouldn’t he wait for a better offer?
All three clubs were struggling at the time and obviously having a familiar face in charge would encourage patience and goodwill in difficult times, so you can understand it from the clubs’ point of view.
But if these managers had done such commendable work at Derby, why are they where they are?

Believe me I completely understand your sentiments as I too have experienced the wrath of certain forum members during my time on here. I think it comes with the territory!!! We are all passionate in our desire for the club to prosper & succeed it’s just that we all approach it from different angles. Not taking sides with anyone but just trying take the heat out of the debate and bring us all back onto the same page ?

You are right, but it’s the nature of the forum sometimes. We still love being on here, for better or for worse.
Some of the comments I’ve had directed towards me just for holding one opinion or another have been genuinely horrible. But we’re all passionate and emotional people and sometimes it can spill over.
For example, had we gone on to achieve success under Cocu, Rooney or Rosenior, there would have been comments singling me out, of that I am sure. ’Jourdan must be devastated...’ and so on.
This will all be forgotten about when McGoldrick puts us 3-0 up v West Ham.

Read the tone of @LeedsCityRam’s post above and you’ll understand what naming names leads too. It’s antagonistic.
The fact that @Carl Sagan took the time and was able to quote multiple posters’ comments shows what I am saying obviously has some weight.
But please continue trying to score points if you must.

It’s not hypocritical, though.
Cocu, Rooney and Rosenior weren’t taking us anywhere. I can appreciate that they had to contend with difficult circumstances and they all had some good spells or good moments, but let’s be honest, those were few and far between.
They were all inexperienced at managing clubs in the particular division we were in and never looked likely to move us forward in the way we needed.
Vitesse, Hull, DC United - would you say any of those managers advanced their careers on the strength of their work here, or more likely their previous connection to the clubs?
Warne arrived here with actual tangible success in this very division, so of course it seems strange that he wasn’t given more support from the start.

It’s what tends to happen when you don’t win football matches or you don’t look like you’re improving or working towards something better.
Difference is Warne was being questioned before he had even changed into his club tracksuit and sliders.

It’s what tends to happen when you don’t win football matches or you don’t look like you’re improving or working towards something better.
Difference is Warne was being questioned before he had even changed into his club tracksuit and sliders.

Absolutely true. Many of us were were willing to wait and see and many of us were optimistic, quietly or otherwise.
But the fact that even the manager caught wind of the mood of the fanbase perhaps shows that the impact of our words and our thoughts is more significant than we realise.

When the manager himself acknowledges that at least half of the fanbase didn’t want him and his team, that tells you all you need to know.
We were incredibly dismissive of Warne and unfairly so. A pound shop Rowett, some said. The next Jewell, some said. The next Pearson, some said. Taking a leaf out of the Mel Morris playbook, some said.
It was so bad that some respected posters have gone into complete hiding knowing they well and truly overreacted to his appointment.
Doing the bounce when we get promoted? If I were Warne, I would be doing laps of the pitch cupping my ears. It’d be what we deserve.
He’s doing a cracking job and it’s a shame it’s taken us going 14 games unbeaten for him and his team to get some credit.

I should have said when quoting those posters that I wasn't criticizing them. You simply seemed to have had deliberate amnesia when those sorts of comments were commonplace. And then you asked for "the proof". Not hard to find. It was interesting to re-read the early pages. I'd not heard of Warne before the rumour, but then remembered the crass comments at the end of our Wednesday match (though I hadn't known the name of the Rotherham manager who'd made them). But as soon as I and others researched him and unearthed more footage, it turned out this person was an unusual manager with much to recommend him. As has been demonstrated so far. Long may he reign, as that should mean we're doing well.

Read the first 10-15 pages of this very thread.
The comments are all there. I’ve not plucked any of it out of the sky.
If I quoted them all, I’d be here all night and have to charge an hourly rate.

Absolutely true. Many of us were were willing to wait and see and many of us were optimistic, quietly or otherwise.
But the fact that even the manager caught wind of the mood of the fanbase perhaps shows that the impact of our words and our thoughts is more significant than we realise.

When the manager himself acknowledges that at least half of the fanbase didn’t want him and his team, that tells you all you need to know.
We were incredibly dismissive of Warne and unfairly so. A pound shop Rowett, some said. The next Jewell, some said. The next Pearson, some said. Taking a leaf out of the Mel Morris playbook, some said.
It was so bad that some respected posters have gone into complete hiding knowing they well and truly overreacted to his appointment.
Doing the bounce when we get promoted? If I were Warne, I would be doing laps of the pitch cupping my ears. It’d be what we deserve.
He’s doing a cracking job and it’s a shame it’s taken us going 14 games unbeaten for him and his team to get some credit.

Absolutely true. Many of us were were willing to wait and see and many of us were optimistic, quietly or otherwise.
But the fact that even the manager caught wind of the mood of the fanbase perhaps shows that the impact of our words and our thoughts is more significant than we realise.