Derby County v S****horpe United

[sage]

He's a natural Centre-mid.

is he?

[davenportram]

is he?

If it suits the argument. When we signed him County fans said he's better out wide and it's where he's played for us

[-JW-]

Rams captain Richard Keogh has called on the side to put a line under last night’s pulsating defeat to Ssausagehorpe United, and look ahead to Saturday’s npower Championship opener against Sheffield Wednesday.

The 25-year-old marked his Derby County debut with the opening goal of the game, before the floodgates opened at both ends as the sides battled out an incredible 5-5 draw at Pride Park Stadium, with the Rams eventually going out on penalties.

Speaking after the game, Keogh admitted that although the side were shell-shocked, now was the time to put the disappointment of the Capital One Cup defeat behind them, with the opening fixture of the League campaign fast approaching.

He told Rams Player: “It was a crazy night; we were so in control of the game, we should have been out of sight in the first-half, it could of been 5-0 before the interval.

“In the second-half we took our foot off the pedal a little bit and let them in the game, but even then we missed some great opportunities and we should have had the match wrapped up.

“We have got to look forward to Saturday now, the 120 minutes probably didn’t help things but we are a fit group and we are all excited for the start of our League campaign."

The former Coventry City skipper admitted the side’s 7-6 penalty defeat was a real wake-up for members of the first-team, and insisted lessons must be learnt ahead of the weekend’s opener against The Owls.

He added: “It has definitely been a bit of a wake-up call, especially with Saturday just around the corner.

“We need to play like we did in the first-half, play on the front foot; we have got a lot of pace and energy in our team.

“On a positive note, we scored five goals and we could have had even more, so in attack we are looking sharp, but we have just got to cut out that naivety, keep our shape and work a bit harder off the ball.”

[alexxxxx]

on dctv/ramsplayer, clough and keogh look visibly shocked and shaken.

[-JW-]

on dctv/ramsplayer, clough and keogh look visibly shocked and shaken.

Whats Cloughie been saying?

[Alph]

Why is it a wake up call? Was our league cup record not enough warning?

Or at 4-3/5-4 did it still seem safe?

Took their foot off the pedal? Brilliant.

Anyway, let's hope we don't fall asleep when it really matters.

[DCFCfranco]

Christ!

In fairness he probably hit the best penalty, hard, low and right in the bottom corner - keeper saved it...

Because the keeper saved it, does not make it a bad penalty - just as if a ball is hit from 40 yards a 100 mph into the very top corner and the keeper saves it doesn't make it a bad shot!

But, after that comment.. I'm out, it's becoming more and more prominent to who was at the game, and who sat at home moaning creating an imaginary game In their head based on little factual knowledge and the moans about it!

I was at the game and calm down I've never liked bavies but if a penalty is good enough it'll go in if it's not and the keeper goes the write way it won't penalties are a lottery but if bavies penalty was with power and placement he shouldve scored butthe keeper guessed right and made a good save.

[-JW-]

5 other championship teams went out tonight, move on, **** happens.

[alexxxxx]

Whats Cloughie been saying?

basically said that it's gonna be hard to get over the loss and it will haunt them, some players didn't put in enough in the second half but he thinks that they played well in large amounts of the game. Thought the first of their goals was sloppy and the penalty was the turning point. He said that his decision to take will hughes off was a mistake but they should never have been having to rely on him anyway.

[DCFCfranco]

5 other championship teams went out tonight, move on, **** happens.

But why does that **** always happen to us???

[Alph]

I think tickets for Cup games at PP should be about £2:50.

For a family of five

[DerbyRam!]

at 3-0 i honestly thought we had a good chance 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />....i was wrong

main problem tonight i think came when roberts was taken off and naylor bought on...

he was absolutely dire.....at fault for 2 of their goals and i think it was him who gave away the penalty(incidently we played about 8 minutes of injury when there was meant to be 5 and 5 was ridiculous in the first place)

couldnt get near their winger for the life of him, problem is i thought he was quite good too

got absolutely no defensive help from jacobs who i also thought (apart from the set pieces) didnt really get involved at all, clough if being a good manager needed to do something about this!, coutts worked his heart out i think and looks excellent along with huges(even hughes i would put above bryson now as he just didnt seem to have any luck tonight), if clough had moved jacobs to the middle and put coutts infront of naylor i think we would of done alot better defensively

[Mr Tibbs]

I don't like how Bavies gets made the scapegoat all the time. Even when he's off it he's not bad.

Generally, Jamie Ward loses the ball/wastes oppertunities twice as much as Bavies does yet fans will go to their knees to drink Jamie's love juices. Bavies does a bad pass and everyone's on his back. He's never been given a break since the day he arrived. Same can be said with Tyson.

Because once upon a time someone said Bavies was a dead ball specialist and Tyson was a goalscorer everyone won't believe any different! If you drop the tags they've both been given they're good squad players for this division over the course of a season. When they're on it, they're more than worthy of starting, we just haven't seen it enough. I wouldn't say that either have been diabolical like some people harp on about though.

[DerbyRam!]

I don't like how Bavies gets made the scapegoat all the time. Even when he's off it he's not bad.

Generally, Jamie Ward loses the ball/wastes oppertunities twice as much as Bavies does yet fans will go to their knees to drink Jamie's love juices. Bavies does a bad pass and everyone's on his back. He's never been given a break since the day he arrived. Same can be said with Tyson.

Because once upon a time someone said Bavies was a dead ball specialist and Tyson was a goalscorer everyone won't believe any different! If you drop the tags they've both been given they're good squad players for this division over the course of a season. When they're on it, they're more than worthy of starting, we just haven't seen it enough. I wouldn't say that either have been diabolical like some people harp on about though.

I thought bavies did quite well today, nearly scored just didnt look that match ready i think which is fair because i think he is beginning to be frozen out like the likes of croft/maguire

[Alph]

Really disappointed for Naylor. I thought we had a very capable player on our hands. We still might. It's only 1 bad performance from him. Just sad to see such a bad show against less than spectacular opponent.

Out of position is all well and good, but there are basics you need to get right.

We'll beat Wednesday.

[DCFCfranco]

I don't like how Bavies gets made the scapegoat all the time. Even when he's off it he's not bad.

Generally, Jamie Ward loses the ball/wastes oppertunities twice as much as Bavies does yet fans will go to their knees to drink Jamie's love juices. Bavies does a bad pass and everyone's on his back. He's never been given a break since the day he arrived. Same can be said with Tyson.

Because once upon a time someone said Bavies was a dead ball specialist and Tyson was a goalscorer everyone won't believe any different! If you drop the tags they've both been given they're good squad players for this division over the course of a season. When they're on it, they're more than worthy of starting, we just haven't seen it enough. I wouldn't say that either have been diabolical like some people harp on about though.

I'd slag anyone off if I thought they were **** admittedly I don't like bavies but I don't use him as a scapegoat I may use Conor Doyle but he is ******

[Scott129]

This was a completely freak game and with 99% positivity, I can say this will never happen again. We just need to get up, brush ourselves down and go into Saturday's game with a clean slate. We played some fantastic attacking football by the sounds of it and tbh, it didn't sound as if the defence had a really bad game, we were just a bit unlucky I think. I just hope Naylor's confidence didn't get knocked too much because he clearly had a howler tonight. Poor lad.

[DCFCfranco]

Capital one cup? Who gives a ****

[davenportram]

Really disappointed for Naylor. I thought we had a very capable player on our hands. We still might. It's only 1 bad performance from him. Just sad to see such a bad show against less than spectacular opponent.

Out of position is all well and good, but there are basics you need to get right.

We'll beat Wednesday.

But LB is totally different to CH, different angles and positioning. When he got in the right place he made a tackle or blocked the cross.

Yes he didn't do well but he isn't a full back, and he is right footed, so was always on a loser at the technically different position

[Ambitious]

Everyone there seems to be in agreement we played very well - everyone who wasn't there seems to think we was terrible... I don't know about anyone else but that doesn't sound to bad to me!

If it means Wednesday and Bolton aren't gearing up for a big long task, and there is a chance they may take their foot off then, by all means... Let them.