Asanovic Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 4-6-0. Good enough for Del Bosque, much importantly good enough for Craig Levein. Therefore, good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yes, every player you mention are from a team that finished 12th in the second tier, if we are going to progress then we need a decent forward, we have not got one that has played consistently well for derby. Theo may be a 20 or 2 goal a season, but his touch is as bad as ive seen at derby and to me is better as an impact man yet he is our no 1 choice at the mo, ball is not quite there, ward is not a c/f, Bennett hasn't played 5 games yet and Tyson is erm....Tyson. We need good options when our first choice are not working, at the moment we are struggling with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey B Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Let's also consider the fact that a striker cannot be judged on how many goals they score if the are not been played as a striker. Tyson spent most of last season on the wing because of his pace. When he was played as a out n out striker (Leeds) he did very well. Let's not be too negative about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 You're turning football into a game of numbers, and that's not what it is. You said in your post prior to this that football is simply about scoring more than the opp (numbers?), then you put that. Its a saturday, I've had a few Sols and you've mushed my brain. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Let's also consider the fact that a striker cannot be judged on how many goals they score if the are not been played as a striker. Tyson spent most of last season on the wing because of his pace. When he was played as a out n out striker (Leeds) he did very well. Let's not be too negative about him. I agree with the post. But, 0 goals and 1 assist was it? Not great form for a winger. Just don't rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I've had a few Sols and you've mushed my brain. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> What's happened there is that you've been Duracelled. Unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Callum Ball looks like he has lost a stone or two, last year he looked very sluggish and like he was carrying abit too much lard. If he gets a few chances in pre-season I can see him impressing, his mobility has been his main downfall. If he sorts that out then I believe we have a good young striker on our hands. For what its worth I would agree with this assessment. I thought perhaps Callum had been bulked up to play the "strong man" up front - which is no earthly good if you can't move a bit quicker than a gastropod on valium. A leaner, niftier Callum could well be a pleasant suprise in this campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Looks like the U18s are bringing in a couple more strikers for this coming season. This could suggest the management really do see Bennett being nearer the first team squad maybe taking turns with Thomas. There are not many strikers among the 2nd year scholars that I can think of. Ball is already over age. Yes we need a striker but it also does look like Bennet or Thomas are expected to be with the full squad often enough to possibly upset the balence of the U18s. The two new Academy strikers join next Friday I think. One is from Ireland, named Caraghy I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrudeRAM Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 i can't understand why we sold maguire, i feel he didn't really have a chance at derby but yes, i think we need another good striker at the side of robinson. Maybe someone who can head a ball with us having signed a supposedly good winger (Jacobs). Connor Samon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Connor Doyle and Tyson. Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We failed to score in 40% of our games last season and there is a 3 page debate about whether we need a new striker (goalscorer)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We failed to score in 40% of our games last season and there is a 3 page debate about whether we need a new striker (goalscorer)? This post says it all. Being able to score goals when it matters is the difference between mid table and challenging the top 2 and going for promotion. YES we need a striker. Especially given we dont really get goals from anywhere else in the team the way we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Can we have Ross McCormack please! He'd be a quality signing he's for sale after rejecting his deal at Leeds. Think thats the kinda buy that would get us all excited but in reality probably won't happen 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mellow:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Why'd he reject Leeds. I don't think he'd leave Media Utd for Derby though. Got some top Championship players Leeds. Reckon they'll be strong this year. Horrible club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Why'd he reject Leeds. I don't think he'd leave Media Utd for Derby though. Got some top Championship players Leeds. Reckon they'll be strong this year. Horrible club Maybe Neil Warnock isn't his cup of tea! Wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We failed to score in 40% of our games last season and there is a 3 page debate about whether we need a new striker (goalscorer)? I thought strikers weren't judged purely on goals but what else they brought to the team like holding up and bringing others into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey B Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I thought strikers weren't judged purely on goals but what else they brought to the team like holding up and bringing others into play. A point I made yesterday. I said that Tyson cannot be judged on goals when he is played as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I thought strikers weren't judged purely on goals but what else they brought to the team like holding up and bringing others into play. There not but a good striker would help a team win.. To help a team win the team needs to scoer goals.. Now if a striker doesn't score many (Drogba) then he needs to assist and by doing that he needs to defend from the front, bring his midfielders into play, create space for other forward players, contribute to basic one touch passing, run the channels etc.. Like some people have mentioned.. Kuqi wasn't a big goalscorer for us but at least he did the basics well and it just happened that during his time here was the same time that our midfielders had their best goal haul.. Commons, Bueno, Green and Cywka all benefited from having a basic striker who could hold it up, create space and help the midfielders.. S.Davies, Theo, Ball and Tyson all lack the basic needs of being a good striker.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 The tecnically correct term is a "Target Man " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 There not but a good striker would help a team win.. To help a team win the team needs to scoer goals.. Now if a striker doesn't score many (Drogba) then he needs to assist and by doing that he needs to defend from the front, bring his midfielders into play, create space for other forward players, contribute to basic one touch passing, run the channels etc.. Like some people have mentioned.. Kuqi wasn't a big goalscorer for us but at least he did the basics well and it just happened that during his time here was the same time that our midfielders had their best goal haul.. Commons, Bueno, Green and Cywka all benefited from having a basic striker who could hold it up, create space and help the midfielders.. S.Davies, Theo, Ball and Tyson all lack the basic needs of being a good striker.. bris - based on our current squad and the idea that steve davis will be gone - which one would you get? - a poacher - fox in the box type - or a target man - hold it up bring others into play, guy? i think the latter - for the reasons you've outlined above - but im sure others will disagree one of both type would be nice - chose one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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