Guest Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If Mourinho was to become England manager, I'd follow the national team passionately if it was to be Harry I may not even read the match reports never mind watch it! 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I dont want Pearce in charge, i want Jose. But if we win tonight, it might take a bit of the media hype that Arry plays up to so well, aeay from him. Arry is a loser, we need winners, not Joe Royle and he wont be able to spend 200 million with the national team either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If we're defining success as winning a very small number of competitions (Europe, league, FA Cup) then we're narrowing things down to a very small pool of people. Depending on the starting point success means different things to different people. I'd say a playoff place would make Clough a successful manager, even if we didn't win anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 We have tried people who have won things and got no where. Other countries seem to give people who havent managed the managers job who do well like Dunga, Klinsman, even Mark Hughes etc. Some dreadfull club managers have done well in international football, ie Lawrie Sanchez, The late Gary Speed was doing poor at Sheff Utd and then took wales on. International football seems totally different to club managment for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi1Kenobi0 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sorry but what exactly are you supposed to win with Portsmouth? But he did it with money, that's the difference (wages and transfers). For Portsmouth, yes, probably as good as they could wish for in terms of a trophy but look where it got them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFJLMyUwrg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFJLMyUwrg my only thoughts after the holland game. He is our only hope now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The media coverage of this angers me. Having a look at the Sun waiting for a takeaway on Friday night (no, not THAT part of the Sun), and they've practically given the job to 'Arry. There's a photoshopped pic of him as a parachutist (or parachuter, whatever it is), with the headline 'Harrychute', as if he's come to magic us to glory. And on the back they've altered the lyrics to 'Happy Birthday' (as it was his b'day on Friday) to read something like 'we're fed up with Psycho, we're counting on you'. It sickened me (more than the Sun usually does) that they've treated it almost as an established fact. And will they take the blame if he fails in the job? Will they b******s. Give the Euros to Pearce, as he knows the U21 lads, is prepared to ditch the old guard and try something different, and frankly they played with more heart and spirit on Wednesday than at any point that I can recall under Cappello. Then get Mourinho on a long-term basis after that. Wow, this FA job is easy, even I could do it... 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Well, he'll never be the next England manager, 2 reasons. 1. He wouldn't be able to fill in the application form. 2. His dog would probably eat it before he could hand it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 He will win his usual again this year, absolutely nothing after spending another cool hundred million. I dont hate the man, i just think he is a rubbish manager, tactically inept and just because he is the media darling we are all forced to live him, well not me. If anyone can explain to me how a man who has won the same as Joe Royle and John Sillet is getting even considered for the biggest football job in the country, if not the world, then i will be quiet. But no one can, because no one actually knows. Not many English managers have won anything in our country though, since the rise of the premiership and foreign imports. Can't think of any besides Harry Redknapp, to be honest. He's the most succesful recent English manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I'm angry that Roy Hodgsons name is hardly ever mentioned. He is the most successful English manager. WBA are 10th in the prem at the minute. He was successful at Fulham. Been successful all over Europe. PLEEEEEEEASE PICK ROY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Howard Wilkinson was the last English manager to win the top league, in 1991/92. Twenty years! Harry Redknapp was the first English manager to win the FA Cup since Joe Royle in 1995, and Venables was in 1991 before that. Steve McClaren was the last English manager to win the football league cup, in 2004 with Middlesborough. Before that it was Brian Little with Aston Villa, in 1996. Pretty shocking for saying this is the English league and the overly foreign expensive bias we've seen in recent times. Sir Alex Ferguson has started the fashion of Scottish managers in the English premiership, him and Dalglish both being succesful with I think 7 current managers of Scottish heritage. Seems unfashionable to be English these days. Go Spurs and Newcastle I say, apart from Sunderland they're the teams I prefer to watch as well. Don't think it's bias just because I'm English either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Howard Wilkinson was the last English manager to win the top league, in 1991/92. Twenty years! Harry Redknapp was the first English manager to win the FA Cupsince Joe Royle in 1995, and Venables was in 1991 before that. Steve McClaren was the last English manager to win the football league cup, in 2004 with Middlesborough. Before that it was Brian Little with Aston Villa, in 1996. Pretty shocking for saying this is the English league and the overly foreign expensive bias we've seen in recent times. Sir Alex Ferguson has started the fashion of Scottish managers in the English premiership, him and Dalglish both being succesful with I think 7 current managers of Scottish heritage. Seems unfashionable to be English these days. Which is why it seems pointless to me that the manager 'must be English'. Why? Shouldn't we go for the best man available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Which is why it seems pointless to me that the manager 'must be English'. Why? Shouldn't we go for the best man available? Why keep over looking English managers? Like I slightly cover in my edited post, I don't think English managers are given a fair chance at any of the most respected levels within English football these days, I can't fathom why. I highly doubt there's a lack of managers available, it just seems the more expensive foreign option is always suited. For example, the next full term Chelsea manager will not be English. No doubt about it. Bar Manchester and Arsenal who have kept there managers long term, none of the other competing teams have even looked towards an Englishman. They didn't give Woy Hodgson a chance at Liverpool, gave him the scraps of Rafa's teams and no money, then new ownership came in and sacked him off before he could rebuild and bought King Kenny of Liverpool in. It's about time we stopped ignoring the abundance of English managers we've got over here and gave them a chance. Don't care if it's Woy, Harry, Alan or Nigel, give them a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I wasn't saying we shouldn't have an English manager, I was saying we shouldn't limit ourselves to one when there could be a much better non-English candidate available. I wouldn't mind giving Roy Hodgson a go, at least he knows international football, and he was unfairly treated at Liverpool, but can get teams like West Brom and Fulham playing, and has experience of continental leagues. Could do worse in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I wasn't saying we shouldn't have an English manager, I was saying we shouldn't limit ourselves to one when there could be a much better non-English candidate available. I wouldn't mind giving Roy Hodgson a go, at least he knows international football, and he was unfairly treated at Liverpool, but can get teams like West Brom and Fulham playing, and has experience of continental leagues. Could do worse in my opinion. Agree. Although not sure shedding out millions on a Mourinho or that dutch bloke is worth it, the English setup needs to change. Lets not look towards instant success but rather building for the future.I think an Englishman would be better suited for that, more likely to look towards youth and their setup as well. We aren't going to win the up and coming euro's or the world cup in Brazil. The tournament in Qatar or Russia would be a great focal point to build up to. 2018/2022. Not sure where the 2016 tournament will be held in Europe...ah, google tells me it's France. Very interesting, maybe that's the best warm up arena! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 where's the "title challenge" gone now 'arry..? Another season of winning absolutley nothing do you think..? Get him in for England..!!?? Stop staring at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Andre Villas-Boas? Got an English grandma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Andre Villas-Boas? Got an English grandma... And...won a lot more than good old 'arry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [size=3]Grandmother from Stockport! First job was working for Sir Bobby Robson.....[/size] [size=3]AVB for England......[/size] [size=3]Just don't ask for the full family name on the back of your shirt.[/size] [size=3] [/size] [size=3]Born in [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porto]Porto[size=3], [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Region,_Portugal]Norte[size=3],[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-5][6][size=3] He was the second child and first son of Luís Filipe Manuel Henrique do Vale Peixoto de Sousa e Villas-Boas (born 29 February 1952) and Teresa Maria de Pina Cabral e Silva (born 11 February 1951).[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-geneall1-0][1][size=3] Villas-Boas at the age of 16 lived in the same apartment block as [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Bobby_Robson]Sir Bobby Robson[size=3], who was then manager of [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Porto]Porto[size=3]. Following a debate between the two, Robson appointed Villas-Boas to Porto's observation department.[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-6][7][size=3] Villas-Boas has spoken fluent English since childhood, as his grandmother was from Stockport.[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-bobby_robson-7][8][size=3] Robson arranged for Villas-Boas to obtain [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Football_Association]the FA[size=3] coaching qualification, the UEFA C coaching licence in Scotland and for him to study the training methods of [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipswich_Town_F.C.]Ipswich Town[size=3].[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-bobby_robson-7][8][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-largs_mafia-8][9][size=3] He later also obtained his B licence, A licence and [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Pro_Licence]UEFA Pro Licence[size=3] in Scotland, under the tutelage of [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fleeting_(footballer)]Jim Fleeting[size=3].[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-largs_mafia-8][9][size=3] Villas-Boas had a short stint as head coach of the [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Virgin_Islands_national_football_team]British Virgin Islands national team[size=3] at the age of 21,[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-independent-9][10][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-uefa-10][11][size=3] before he moved onto a career as an assistant coach at Porto under [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho]José Mourinho[size=3] (another protégé of Robson's). As Mourinho moved clubs to [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.]Chelsea[size=3] and [/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Internazionale_Milano]Internazionale[size=3], Villas-Boas followed.[/size][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#cite_note-uefa-10][11] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 and, i hear he can email AND send text's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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