Duracell Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 My answer to you would be get the rose tints specs off, and stop being a tad condescending:) Sorry - it just annoys me haha. And don't tell me I'm wearing rose-tinted spectacles, I'm hopelessly dissapointed about our summer signings. Buutttt you can't use pre-season performances or results as any kind of decent judge of how your season will pan out. I'm just not interested in pre-season. Clubs only fool you that they're serious so that you buy tickets to go to the game to make more money out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Sorry - it just annoys me haha. And don't tell me I'm wearing rose-tinted spectacles, I'm hopelessly dissapointed about our summer signings. Buutttt you can't use pre-season performances or results as any kind of decent judge of how your season will pan out. I'm just not interested in pre-season. Clubs only fool you that they're serious so that you buy tickets to go to the game to make more money out of you.I hope you are right, but:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I hope you are right, but.... ....it doesn't look good does it :mad: All I hope is that the players are match sharpe next Saturday and that we can prove we can play well, then we'll see how well this pre-season has gone. Any victory will feel hollow though - injuries in certain positions will cause us big problems. It's this time more than any time that you've had a right to be pessimistic, smiffy. The past two seasons I had kinda been expecting and I don't see what more we could have done. But I got my hopes up for the future about this promised investment and we haven't made the squad significantly better, on paper at least. But all that's based on our trasnfer dealings, we can't say anything else yet - and that's our only hope. Leicester, Forest and a host of other Championship clubs have flown all over Europe and hosted massive clubs at home chasing money and glory this pre-season, while we've been playing by ourselves at home concentrating on actually getting ready. That might give us a slight heads up early on, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 can i ask why are we playing a team 3 days before we start the season? and not a team where we can put out the reserves, we will have to put out a good squad, why 3 days before? To me the performances are a tad worrying, obviously this is only pre season and results and performances don't matter, however the mindset the players are in probably won't be helped by these results. However as long as nigel knows which team he wants to put out, in what formation and as long as he has those players then pre season has probably gone pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 can i ask why are we playing a team 3 days before we start the season? and not a team where we can put out the reserves, we will have to put out a good squad, why 3 days before? To me the performances are a tad worrying, obviously this is only pre season and results and performances don't matter, however the mindset the players are in probably won't be helped by these results. However as long as nigel knows which team he wants to put out, in what formation and as long as he has those players then pre season has probably gone pretty well.If Nigel now that he should go on Penn and Teller, he would certainly fool them:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 We've had plenty of reserve pre-season games. As many as the 1st team!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Has there actually been a match where the first team has all played together at all or for longer than 45 minutes. There always seems to be a mix between youth and firsteam and reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Bit odd, you'd have thought that we'd try to get at least a few games where the intended first team played together consistently. You might surmise that we don't actually know what the first team will be yet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 It's pre-season! It is pre-season! It's pre-season. This is still pre-season. Please tell me you understand why I keep repeating this. The lack of fullbacks and central strikers is a worry but you can not use our performances to judge how well we will do this season. Even if we do turn out to be crap, we'll be crap in a different way to how we're crap now. It's pre-season. It's 11 v 11, it's a game where a lot of the players will be around the first team next year. Yes it's pre season, but it's pre season for the opposition as well, the players are still trying to win the game. I know it doesnt matter a jot, but the lack of goals is concerning and the lack of improvement that we've shown as the games have gone on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I am personally glad we're losing because whats the point in using all our wins up in pre-season, surely best bet is to save them for the season? no.. Yeah, it is a worry now.. I jokingly said, I bet we've lost and when I found out we did, it was a strange feeling of acceptance.. I don't want to get used to this! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Im worried like few other that the first choice team going into the season whatever it is aren't playing together. Surely that's why you do your business early. Again as I've said before I never feel clough knows what his plans are, it always seems let's keep trying everything then something might come good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yep preseason dont mean nothing, I bet the Scunny supporters are not bothered that they lost 0-5 to Burnley, its only preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Im worried like few other that the first choice team going into the season whatever it is aren't playing together. Surely that's why you do your business early. Again as I've said before I never feel clough knows what his plans are, it always seems let's keep trying everything then something might come good possibly...... the injuries have definately disrupted things, and exposed the limitations of the squad. And its not clear that there is a big idea or a plan, but based on what we've seen...here's my team to play Brum. .............................fielding brayford.......anderson.......o'brien.........roberts cywka.........davies b.......maguire........ward .................davies s........tyson subs legzdins robinson ball bryson shackell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I just hope theirs no 4132 formation next Saturday. It'll be a game of who can score the most. Nice, if your gambling man or supremely confident in your strikers. 4231 433 Any, but put Tyson on the bench or on the wing. Not bothered about the scores, but if you see a weakness in Pre-season, you'd be a fool to ignore it. Weaknesses we've had imo: Poor protection for defence. Possibly not even as well protected as they were by a knackered Sav and a classy but weak Bailey. Brayford took a blow today, Roberts felt uncomfortable. If you were worried then, consider it a warning. Wasted chances. A striker on loan would be lovely. Billy Sharp on a transfer would be halfway to mounting a Play Off challenge. I get fed up of football being played on finance sheets. We want to make the PL, we're going to need to score goals. Let's get a goalscorer from a (no disrespect intended) lesser club like Doncaster. Think we have enough in Ward and Davies to get a decent scorer in the charts though. So that's much less of a priority imo. But still, finance this, budget that, profit, loss, turnover....... just get the players we need man! Billy Sharp wont put Derby in administration.... but he might fire us into the PL. His record is superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 possibly...... the injuries have definately disrupted things, and exposed the limitations of the squad. And its not clear that there is a big idea or a plan, but based on what we've seen...here's my team to play Brum. .............................fielding brayford.......anderson.......o'brien.........roberts cywka.........davies b.......maguire........ward .................davies s........tyson subs legzdins robinson ball bryson shackell I think Shackell will start assuming he gets 60-70 minutes under his belt on Wednesday. Is that a normal 4-4-2 formation, none of those midfielders can play the holding role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think Shackell will start assuming he gets 60-70 minutes under his belt on Wednesday. Is that a normal 4-4-2 formation, none of those midfielders can play the holding role. maybe but o'brien might just deserve his place and that would keep the others on their toes... as for the holding role....we can only pick who's fit ....maybe davies can do a good enough job and deserves his chance...its only brum .......i'd have tried leacock but we havent. There's no real threat in their centre midfield.....and dont tell me we should be scared of Jordan Mutch. Swansea didnt have an orthodox holding player and it didnt do them much harm? ............................Myhill Carr.........Davies.......Caldwell.......Ridgewell Burke.......Gomis........Mutch..........Fahey ..............Rooney......Asante King is injured, Jerome is injured or on his way out Rooney and Burke are the main threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think Clough will go with this: Fielding Brayford Anderson Shackell Roberts Pearson B Davies Bryson Maguire Tyson S Davies Only possible change being B Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think Clough will go with this: Fielding Brayford Anderson Shackell Roberts Pearson B Davies Bryson Maguire Tyson S Davies Only possible change being B Davies. I would think that is close but ward would play. Or is he away with N ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think Clough will go with this: Fielding Brayford Anderson Shackell Roberts Pearson B Davies Bryson Maguire Tyson S Davies Only possible change being B Davies. Me too. But i no likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I would think that is close but ward would play. Or is he away with N ireland Ah, thought I was missing someone. Switch Ward with Davies and you have the team for Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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