AndyinLiverpool Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 12 hours ago, GeneralRam said: He's **** anyway. He'll be plaing in league 2 by the time he retires. So let's not care about a young man going through a difficult time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 7 hours ago, TobyWanKenobi said: 21 and can't buy a start for Accrington Stanley... Let's be honest with ourselves here, he's not getting anywhere with us. Yet never gets the vitriol that Mason always seems to get, despite there being 4 months between them. I am sure that it is down to him getting his debut at 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, rynny said: Yet never gets the vitriol that Mason always seems to get, despite there being 4 months between them. I am sure that it is down to him getting his debut at 15. Mason has been subject to bad luck and mismanagement. When he should be around the first team, he's been handed off on waste of time loans to ***** clubs. Sadly its got to the stage where the writing seems like it's on the wall for him. With Zanzala he was never close to being good enough for the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Its irresponsible management to play these players at 15 / 16 years of age. the fans think that we've got a budding superstar on our hands. The player finds it difficult to adapt to going back to the reserves and becomes frustrated. making a debut at such a young age did no favours to bennett, holmes, powell and possibly even will hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 hours ago, TobyWanKenobi said: 21 and can't buy a start for Accrington Stanley... Let's be honest with ourselves here, he's not getting anywhere with us. Stanley are 3rd in the league, why would they shoehorn Zanzala in? He’ll get 5 mins here and there, it’s up to him to make the best of any chance he might get. He’d be better off down the bottom of the league and getting more minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: Stanley are 3rd in the league, why would they shoehorn Zanzala in? He’ll get 5 mins here and there, it’s up to him to make the best of any chance he might get. He’d be better off down the bottom of the league and getting more minute. So many questions about the Zanzala deal. Why would they loan him of they were just going to dump him on the bench. Why would we allow him to go for the experience of 5 minutes here and there? I can only assume that we wanted him out of the way because the club know he's not really going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 hours ago, RamNut said: Its irresponsible management to play these players at 15 / 16 years of age. the fans think that we've got a budding superstar on our hands. The player finds it difficult to adapt to going back to the reserves and becomes frustrated. making a debut at such a young age did no favours to bennett, holmes, powell and possibly even will hughes. Maybe but you can’t generalise, as seem to recall Rooney too made his debut at 16, didn’t do him any harm. Age doesn’t matter if they are good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 You can't win anything with kids. Ask Alan Hanson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Zag zig said: Maybe but you can’t generalise, as seem to recall Rooney too made his debut at 16, didn’t do him any harm. Age doesn’t matter if they are good enough. You'll always get the odd exception. E.g. The genuine article - Pele. even in rooneys case i would argue that his career faded earlier than it might otherwise have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, RamNut said: You'll always get the odd exception. E.g. The genuine article - Pele. even in rooneys case i would argue that his career faded earlier than it might otherwise have done. I’d put Michael Owen in that category as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Duracell said: I’d put Michael Owen in that category as well. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Maybe t(e experience of training with a first team, sitting on a bench at a first team game in front of a crowd will help him? obviously we arent a Liverpool and asking for a play or pay a fine deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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