Norman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, McRamFan said: Try reading the whole article and the others that are there. It isn't a fact just because you have read to the point you want too. Immigration built this country, built its roads, rail, hospitals and utilities such as dams and power stations. Capitalism is a failed model, just look at Carillion, got greedy, focused on profits and utterly failed, now the workers are worried about the pensions, the shareholders have lost investments, however in this great capitalist world the thieves that ran it, walk away with the bonus and fat pay packets. Oh dear. Again, I was pointing out why certain decisions have been made by successive governments. Sorry if that upsets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Norman said: Oh dear. Again, I was pointing out why certain decisions have been made by successive governments. Sorry if that upsets you. Doesn't upset me at all, you didn't point out anything at all, not if we go down your fact checking route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: How you down as a student, but university rather than primary school... I am childlike, it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Think you should read this and the real squeeze is on the middle class: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/07/vanishing-middle-class-london-economy-divide-rich-poor-england Says nothing about immigration. This does: http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/ Immigration does not cause you to wait longer to be seen by a Doctor, it does not necessarily drive down wages in the long term. Facts are out there, just some people can't dig any deeper than the first result they get on Google - news flash there are search engines out there that are not commercially driven... I've read through both articles. Very interested to know how you concluded "immigration does not cause you to wait longer to be seen by a doctor"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, McRamFan said: capitalism is a failed model, just look at Carillion, got greedy, focused on profits and utterly failed, now the workers are worried about the pensions, the shareholders have lost investments, however in this great capitalist world the thieves that ran it, walk away with the bonus and fat pay packets These are the ***** they should be getting upset about. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/business/winners-carillion-scandal-making-300m-government-contractors-collapse/15/01/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lambchop said: These are the ***** they should be getting upset about. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/business/winners-carillion-scandal-making-300m-government-contractors-collapse/15/01/ Oh, I am. None of you read past what you want to, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Very interested to know how you concluded "immigration does not cause you to wait longer to be seen by a doctor"? Thought I would treat myself to G star ram/Nroman assumption of facts, Actually that is a fact, go find it, bet you cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, McRamFan said: Thought I would treat myself to G star ram/Nroman assumption of facts, Actually that is a fact, go find it, bet you cannot. I will always make it clear when I am stating facts from a source or if they are my own opinion. Posting links to 2 different sources and adding dropping in something between the 2 that is not referenced in either article is very mischievous to say the lesst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Thought I would treat myself to G star ram/Nroman assumption of facts, Actually that is a fact, go find it, bet you cannot. But is says the opposite of what you put. And people have liked it without reading it too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Norman said: None of you read past what you want to, though. What do you mean by that? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Try reading the whole article and the others that are there. It isn't a fact just because you have read to the point you want too. Immigration built this country, built its roads, rail, hospitals and utilities such as dams and power stations. Capitalism is a failed model, just look at Carillion, got greedy, focused on profits and utterly failed, now the workers are worried about the pensions, the shareholders have lost investments, however in this great capitalist world the thieves that ran it, walk away with the bonus and fat pay packets. Aren't most bonuses to the top dogs paid in shares? If so, won't they stand to lose the most if the company collapses? Unless they have cashed the shares in of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 37 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Aren't most bonuses to the top dogs paid in shares? No, my bonus is cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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