Zak Brunt - Academy kid

[RamNut]

1 hour ago, bigbadbob said:

Do the family get a bit of a sweetner when signing with a new club ?

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299 Except that a Club may, not earlier than 1 January next following the commencement of his Under 16 year, offer an Academy player a contract as a Contract player upon his attaining the age of 17 years and subject to Rules 248 and 277:

299.1  no Club shall induce or attempt to induce a player to become registered as an Academy player by that Club by offering him, or any person connected with him, either directly or indirectly, a benefit or payment of any description whether in cash or in kind;

299.2  no Club shall likewise induce or attempt to induce an Academy player to enter into a scholarship Agreement and in particular no Club shall pay or offer to pay to an Academy player upon his entering into a scholarship Agreement remuneration in excess of the remuneration referred to in Rule 285.1;

299.3  no Academy player shall, either directly or indirectly, accept any such inducement. 

 

[bigbadbob]

22 minutes ago, RamNut said:

 

Not officially then

[RamNut]

2 hours ago, ramblur said:

 

Staying on the LD theme,have you seen the type of contract that was signed,and do you know how prominent the compensation clause is? The red ink stuff's very dramatic,but only valid if you have to go over such contract with a fine tooth comb to find it (viz,the clause).

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Compensation

325 The registration of an Academy player at an Academy shall impose an obligation on the applicant Club or premier league club (“the Applicant Club”) to pay compensation for the training and development of that Academy player to any Club or premier league club or Former league Club which previously held his registration (“the Training Club”) provided that:

325.1  the Training Club had indicated in Form 30 (or, in the case of a premier league club, the equivalent premier league form) its intention to retain the Academy player’s registration; or

325.2  the Training Club had offered to enter into a scholarship Agreement pursuant to Rule 277 with the Academy player; or

325.3  the Academy player sought registration at the Applicant Club because he had moved residence outside the permitted travelling

325.4  save where Rule 270 applies, the Training Club and Academy player mutually agreed to terminate the Academy player’s registration pursuant to Rule 271.2 and agreed that the Training Club should retain the right to receive compensation should the Academy player sign for another Club (or club); or time from his last Training Club; or

325.5  the Board has made a determination to that effect pursuant to Rule 275; and

325.6  in all the above cases, the Training Club held a valid licence to operate an Academy in accordance with these Rules (or to operate a Football Academy or Centre of Excellence in accordance with the Rules pertaining to youth development which these Rules replaced). 326 The amount of compensation referred to in Rule 325 shall be:

326.1  such sum as shall be due pursuant to this section of the Rules; or

326.2  as regards the compensation payable by the Applicant Club to the most recent Training Club, such sum as shall have been agreed between them.

327 Rules 329 to 339 govern the compensation due in respect of an Academy player who is in, or about to enter, any age group between Under 9 and Under 16 at the time when he is rst registered with the Applicant Club save for an Academy player to whom Rule 328.2 applies.

328 In default of agreement between the Applicant Club and the Academy player’s most recent Training Club, the professional Football Compensation Committee shall (in accordance with the provisions of Appendix 4 of the Regulations) determine the compensation payable to the latter in respect of an Academy player:

328.1  who is in any age group between Under 17 and Under 21 when he is registered for the Applicant Club; or

328.2  to whom the Training Club made an o er of a scholarship Agreement pursuant to Rule 277.

329 The compensation due in respect of an Academy player to whom Rule 327 applies shall consist of an initial fee payable to the most recent Training Club (and to be paid within seven days of the Academy player being registered for the Applicant Club) and, if the Academy player is in age group Under 12 or older, contingent compensation is payable to all qualifying Training Clubs in accordance with these Rules.

330 The initial fee referred to in Rule 329 shall be calculated by:

 

330.1 330.2

multiplying the applicable annual fixed fee (or fees) calculated in accordance with Rule 331 by the applicable number of years; and

adding thereto any initial fee (capped at such sum as would have been payable when calculated in accordance with this section of the Rules) paid by the most recent Training Club when it acquired the registration of the Academy player.

331 In Rule 330:
331.1 the “applicable annual fixed fee” means the fee set out in the table in Rule 332 referable to:

331.1.1 the age group of the Academy player during any year that he was registered with the Training Club; and

331.1.2 the Category of the Training Club’s Academy during that year; and
331.2 the “applicable number of years” means the number of years for which the Academy player was registered for the Training Club

(subject to Rule 338).
332 The applicable annual xed fees by reference to the age group of the Academy player and the Category of Academy are as follows:

Age group of the Academy player

Category of the Academy of the training Club at the relevant time

Applicable Annual Fixed Fee

under 9 to  under 11 All Categories £3,000

under 12 to under 16 Category 1 £40,000

under 12 to under 16 Category 2 £25,000

under 12 to under 16 Category 3 £12,500 

Rule 325 on page 63 which references rule 270 on page 59

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termination of Registration
271 subject to Rule 272, the registration of an Academy player who has not entered into a scholarship Agreement with a Club shall terminate upon

271.1  the Academy player completing his Full Time Education; or

271.2  the receipt by the league at any time of a mutual cancellation notification in Form YD7 or YD10 duly completed and signed by the Academy player and his parent and on behalf of the Club holding his registration; or

the happening of the earliest of the following events:

271.3  the receipt by the league of the Academy player’s notice duly given in accordance with the provisions of Rule 269.1; or

271.4  the first  saturday in June following the receipt by the league of Form YD30 upon which his Club has indicated its intention to terminate the Academy player’s registration; or
271.5 the expiry, surrender, suspension or revocation of the Academy licence of the Club holding the registration. 

Nowhere does it state that a YD7 allows termination without compensation and that a YD10 is termination with compensation. Nor does it state how the choice of termination agreement is determined.

 

[S8TY]

why does the video look staged....no tackles and either everyone playing is purposely not trying or he's playing against a local park side.....i've never seen academy players so poor!! his dad sounds an arse !

[RamNut]

2 hours ago, reveldevil said:

Can't sign for anybody before the age of 10. 

You can join a pre academy scheme before then, but not a club.

 

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“Academy player” means a male player (other than an Amateur player, non-Contract player (in the EFl) or a Trialist) who is in an age group between Under 9 to Under 21 and who is registered at a Club which operates an Academy pursuant to these Rules.

 

[RamNut]

This is the key word.....

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the Training Club and Academy player mutually agreed to terminate the Academy player’s registration pursuant to Rule 271.2 and agreed that the Training Club should retain the right to receive compensation should the Academy player sign for another Club

 

[RamNut]

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[AndyinLiverpool]

6 hours ago, RamNut said:

This is the key word.....

 

You don’t think ‘mutually’ is key then?

[Ghost of Clough]

@RamNut how do you know what the club did or didn’t do?

[G STAR RAM]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said:

@RamNut how do you know what the club did or didn’t do?

Because the dad's guy said it so it must be true, doubt he would have a biased viewpoint. 

[RamNut]

1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said:

Because the dad's guy said it so it must be true, doubt he would have a biased viewpoint. 

Ignore everything posted, just come out with some crap. 

As usual.

[RamNut]

 

1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

You don’t think ‘mutually’ is key then?

Come on. You can read a paragraph.

[G STAR RAM]

3 minutes ago, RamNut said:

Ignore everything posted, just come out with some crap. 

As usual.

I'd prefer to refer to read the contract he signed, think that's more relevant than your personal standpoint.

[RamNut]

2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'd prefer to refer to read the contract he signed, think that's more relevant than your personal standpoint.

Lol. You are reading it.

none so blind.

[G STAR RAM]

Just now, RamNut said:

Lol. You are reading it.

none so blind.

Yes read every page and you've made about 100 posts slating DCFC for following the system that is in place.

The fact that everyone has pretty much disagreed with you and defended DCFC right to do what they are doing does lead to me agreeing with your conclusion...none so blind.

[RamNut]

2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Yes read every page and you've made about 100 posts slating DCFC for following the system that is in place.

The fact that everyone has pretty much disagreed with you and defended DCFC right to do what they are doing does lead to me agreeing with your conclusion...none so blind.

Lol. You crack me up.

i said derby were contractually correct but that the contract was legally flawed.

[G STAR RAM]

Just now, RamNut said:

Lol. You crack me up.

i said derby were contractually correct but that the contract was legally flawed.

Thanks.

So we agree DCFC are correct to stick the terms of the contract that the lads advisers had him sign.

[RamNut]

6 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Thanks.

So we agree DCFC are correct to stick the terms of the contract that the lads advisers had him sign.

No we don't.

and as you will have already read - more often than not a club may waive compensation. 

P.s. Or agree something far more appropriate.

[G STAR RAM]

4 minutes ago, RamNut said:

No we don't.

and as you will have already read - more often than not a club may waive compensation. 

May being the important word.

What are the club's reason for not waiving compensation in this instance?

[RamNut]

It doesn't matter what the reason is.