Woodley Ram Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Cam the Ram said: Looks like they may be trying to do a u-turn. Apparently that's Forestieri's agent. Total tosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Surely you can see the difference between the jobs that you mention and a professional footballer It's all relative. A footballer gets payed for working for his club, doesn't matter what they or do or how much their wages are. A police officer gets paid to police A footballer get payed to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Getting paid millions of pounds a year to kick a ball is a bit different to being an underpaid policeman. Also, he's signed a contract to play for X years for X amount. There's countless other reasons. His behaviour is unjustifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: Getting paid millions of pounds a year to kick a ball is a bit different to being an underpaid policeman. Money has nothing to do with it, That's just a standard of living you get from doing your job. We as fans see football as a hobby/passion. Football clubs are businesses like any other, they have employees like any other. Just because they "kick a ball" doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same employee rights as any other industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 No thanks Foresteiri, stay at Sheff Wednesday and win promotion, this player would cause more discord amongst our own players and he has shown his true colours already by refusing to play on both occasions this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: Getting paid millions of pounds a year to kick a ball is a bit different to being an underpaid policeman. Also, he's signed a contract to play for X years for X amount. There's countless other reasons. His behaviour is unjustifiable. In your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 13 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Money has nothing to do with it, That's just a standard of living you get from doing your job. We as fans see football as a hobby/passion. Football clubs are businesses like any other, they have employees like any other. Just because they "kick a ball" doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same employee rights as any other industry. He's signed a contract to play for a number of years for a (very good) certain wage. It's so different it's untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 If you dont want one of the best players in the league here then you are quite frankly clueless. We don't know the ins and outs of why he is refusing to play. I didn't see any other comments like these when Shackell and Thorne refused to play for their old clubs before joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Money has nothing to do with it, That's just a standard of living you get from doing your job. We as fans see football as a hobby/passion. Football clubs are businesses like any other, they have employees like any other. Just because they "kick a ball" doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same employee rights as any other industry. In which case they should not get signing on fees, lucrative contracts, image rights etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: In which case they should not get signing on fees, lucrative contracts, image rights etc Why?. They work to get as much money as they can, same with everyone else who works whether your a footballer, actor, golfer, plummer or doctor. The amount they get is irrelevant. My point is, if you was offered a better wage from another company and your current boss tried to stop you, what would you do??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Why?. They work to get as much money as they can, same with everyone else who works whether your a footballer, actor, golfer, plummer or doctor. The amount they get is irrelevant. My point is, if you was offered a better wage from another company and your current boss tried to stop you, what would you do??. Being a fruit picker is a random comparison You are all speculating without knowing all of the facts, if for example he has a release clause and it's been met then the club are in breach of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Why?. They work to get as much money as they can, same with everyone else who works whether your a footballer, actor, golfer, plummer or doctor. The amount they get is irrelevant. My point is, if you was offered a better wage from another company and your current boss tried to stop you, what would you do??. I would leave but there again I haven't signed a contract with my employer saying I will be paid an extremely handsome wage in return for comitting x years of my working career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound 2 tease Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 34 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Money has nothing to do with it, That's just a standard of living you get from doing your job. We as fans see football as a hobby/passion. Football clubs are businesses like any other, they have employees like any other. Just because they "kick a ball" doesn't mean they shouldn't have the same employee rights as any other industry. Absolute right , they should be treated as any other possession . If i paid 3 mill for a boat and it refused to start , I'd leave it rot. Besides why should us mere stake holders, care if an asset has an attitude problem.....same thing happens in companies up and down the land...and the boss is more than happy to employee such individuals. Yours without a trace of irony B2T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Seth's left foot said: Being a fruit picker is a random comparison You are all speculating without knowing all of the facts, if for example he has a release clause and it's been met then the club are in breach of contract. Why? A release clause may one stipulate that the player is given the permission to speak to another club if a certain bid is made, wasn't that the whole argument with Liverpool/Suarez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 If you decide that you no longer want to play for a side you ask for a transfer but you never refuse to play which directly affects the team and loses them points, he has done this trick once and what is stopping him doing this again, his moral compass is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 This is modern day football money talks. Anyone on here would be a fool if they think forestieri wouldn't be a fantastic addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: This is modern day football money talks. Anyone on here would be a fool if they think forestieri wouldn't be a fantastic addition. Like to think he would be great for us, just don't like his manner of seeking a move, just lacks a bit of class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: This is modern day football money talks. Anyone on here would be a fool if they think forestieri wouldn't be a fantastic addition. Or may just be displaying caution. Not really followed his career, as I guess most haven't, but his stats look like he has only had 1 really good season...didn't we sign Blackman in them circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound 2 tease Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Or may just be displaying caution. Not really followed his career, as I guess most haven't, but his stats look like he has only had 1 really good season...didn't we sign Blackman in them circumstances? Agreed...imo Vydra would be better alongside a "big unit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranstonRam Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 If I refused to work within the military I would be Having a lovely time in the knick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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