rammieib Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I'm moaning at others but I am going.....in my car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Will get back to the costing for fans Deby to Burton 16 pounds, Burton to Derby,to be decided,-----many suporters clubs run their own coaches,,. Derby run coaches for the fans,surly the costing for a coach would be similar. Derby to Burton---------Burton to Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 On 08/08/2016 at 13:41, rammieib said: You really have no business idea do you? Just had a look - the cost to buy a New Coach is £250,000! So lets say they keep it for 4 years, and it gets used 6 days a week, with a residual value of £20k, that's £185 towards the cost of the coach before any servicing, fuel, spare parts, repairs, new tyres etc I'd estimate they will spend another £250k on MRO on that coach during its life - so we are now at £370. £120 for the driver £10 for the N.I £20 for Fuel £370 Coach Cost contribution and MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul) £150 Variable Overheads for the company (Admin staff, Insurance, etc) £100 Fixed Costs (Property, where does the bus live when not in use etc) Total - £770 already 50 seater coat - 50 x £16 = £800. So that leaves a £30 profit for the coach company. Every seat may not sell out - someone has to take that risk, probably DCFC and they are probably getting the coach for £650 ish. So there is your business lesson for the day, no more ignorant comments please. Oh and.... The Coach Drivers don't go in and watch the football!! That is so wrong. Your math does not stack up. I hired a 53 seater from Derby to Scarborough less than 12 months ago and it was £550, if I wanted to go to Skeggy it was £450. Set off at 8 and back on Derby just after 6. Therefore £16.00 to Burton is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 8 hours ago, McRamFan said: That is so wrong. Your math does not stack up. I hired a 53 seater from Derby to Scarborough less than 12 months ago and it was £550, if I wanted to go to Skeggy it was £450. Set off at 8 and back on Derby just after 6. Therefore £16.00 to Burton is expensive. How old was the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Did it have one of them toilets that everyone pee's all over and smells like a tramp died in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 9 hours ago, rammieib said: How old was the bus? 60 plate 8 hours ago, Boycie said: Did it have one of them toilets that everyone pee's all over and smells like a tramp died in it? No, just opened the back door and gave free screenwash to the cars behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm not sure whether Derby own the bus (bought it) or long term hire the bus, but the cost of either would be the same for Derby whether it's going to Burton or Newcastle. If they hire it, the coach company are not going to say "it's only to burton so we will charge you less". It doesn't work like that. Although it is expensive, I can see why it is that sort of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just to give an idea,when i lived in cardiff,an executive 52 str from Bridgend to Southampton port,was £400 each way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 On 08/10/2016 at 12:50, McRamFan said: That is so wrong. Your math does not stack up. I hired a 53 seater from Derby to Scarborough less than 12 months ago and it was £550, if I wanted to go to Skeggy it was £450. Set off at 8 and back on Derby just after 6. Therefore £16.00 to Burton is expensive. 23 hours ago, mwram1973 said: I'm not sure whether Derby own the bus (bought it) or long term hire the bus, but the cost of either would be the same for Derby whether it's going to Burton or Newcastle. If they hire it, the coach company are not going to say "it's only to burton so we will charge you less". It doesn't work like that. Although it is expensive, I can see why it is that sort of money. It does work like that, go read my post, if you doubt it ring a coach company and ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 42 minutes ago, McRamFan said: It does work like that, go read my post, if you doubt it ring a coach company and ask. That's the way I thought it would run, obviously i'm wrong and i'm certainly not that interested to go phoning them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Derby to Burton 16 pounds Burton to Derby to be revealed.----maybe a refund will be given if we have been over charged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will the Ram Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Unfortunately over the last few years the club only seem to care about getting as much money out of fans as they can, The Roadrider is a prime example of this. A few years ago you could get to places like Cardiff for about £20, now it'll only just get you to Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 On 10/08/2016 at 01:55, Carl Sagan said: Derby are a community-based club that tries hard to look after fans, but they're not a charity. It's run at a substantial loss subsidized by Mel's millions. If you want a cheaper Roadrider to Burton what you're effectively saying is that Mel's not putting enough money into the club and needs to provide more. Find it hard to believe you are arguing against value for money! Shall we double the players wages and transfer fees again... Mel have to put even more in to maintain the same ridiculous loss and the fans pay £32 for a bus ride to Burton? The problem in football is obvious (and it isn't a lack of money in the game), why anyone would defend that cost for a bus ride to Burton is beyond me. Ordinary fans who have barely seen a rise in the last decade pay more than enough into the sport already so the charity talk is a bit of a nonsense IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 What has a coach carrying derby supporters got to due with Mel fact is the coach company hired by Derby, Charging too much,for the Burton game,which then brings into question their cost to other matches , We should thank fans for paying Attension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Train tickets return £4.95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ramage 4 EVA Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Train tickets return £4.95. DEL the FULL fan IS back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 And i thought train fare was expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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