California Ram. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Are we really good enough to go into this season against Newcastle, Norwich and the rest with no new players ? Regardless of whether we actually need someone, I quite like the arrogance of saying we don't need anyone right now and that the right managerial team with this squad is enough to get promotion. A fully fit squad includes decent cover everywhere (maybe right back, but Christie's hardly injury prone and Hanson/Baird can slot in if needed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'd like 1 right back to compete with Christie at right back. We have 2 players competing for the left back position so I'd like us to have 2 at right back too. I'd also like us to sign a winger because it seems our only proper winger is Camara and he never plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, McLovin said: I'd like 1 right back to compete with Christie at right back. We have 2 players competing for the left back position so I'd like us to have 2 at right back too. I'd also like us to sign a winger because it seems our only proper winger is Camara and he never plays. He might with the new boss. Besides, until Pearson had been able to assess what he'd got, he couldn't decide where we needed to improve. Unless we were hampered by FFP, it was a mistake not appointing Nigel Pearson as soon as possible so that h could get his assessments out of the way, and maybe with his "kick-ass" demeanour, maybe we wouldn't have had as many lame capitulations (e.g. Brighton in the home play-off) and could have been up, up and away already. However, not having to leap headlong into transfers is a great position to be in. BRING IT ON!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 hours ago, singaporeram said: Are we really good enough to go into this season against Newcastle, Norwich and the rest with no new players ? Regardless of whether we actually need someone, I quite like the arrogance of saying we don't need anyone right now and that the right managerial team with this squad is enough to get promotion. A fully fit squad includes decent cover everywhere (maybe right back, but Christie's hardly injury prone and Hanson/Baird can slot in if needed) Its not arrogance... its called being sensible. The new management team need time to access the current squad which is large in numbers, before they contemplate key areas where additions may be needed. In his first season Pearson wont be demanding promotion,the owners wont be pressuring him for it either. Seems its just our own fans, and the fans and media nationwide who put this expectation on us just because of how much we have spent in the past. if you dont want to make the same mistakes as previous regimes... you dont start spending for the sake of it, 2nd guessing which players you may or may not need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, jagerbob said: Its not arrogance... its called being sensible. The new management team need time to access the current squad which is large in numbers, before they contemplate key areas where additions may be needed. In his first season Pearson wont be demanding promotion,the owners wont be pressuring him for it either. Seems its just our own fans, and the fans and media nationwide who put this expectation on us just because of how much we have spent in the past. if you dont want to make the same mistakes as previous regimes... you dont start spending for the sake of it, 2nd guessing which players you may or may not need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 i agree but we have some very capable academy players coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonRam Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 4 hours ago, singaporeram said: Are we really good enough to go into this season against Newcastle, Norwich and the rest with no new players ? Regardless of whether we actually need someone, I quite like the arrogance of saying we don't need anyone right now and that the right managerial team with this squad is enough to get promotion. A fully fit squad includes decent cover everywhere (maybe right back, but Christie's hardly injury prone and Hanson/Baird can slot in if needed) Deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Yup ! We're fine . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 We'll be around the top 6 I'd think. Newcastle should walk it, so we're playing for 2nd and the competition will be stiff. In that context, and remembering last summer, I think it's sensible to be calm and assess...then strike only when we KNOW we can get a player who's going to improve the team. Too many signings for the squad in recent times without a clear idea of where they'll specifically play and blend together. Patience. Even if we're mid-table at Christmas. Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I like to look at it like this. Take our strongest team (though no one can agree on what it is) how many better players in their position are there in the league. Quickly - Carson - how many better keepers are out there? Shackell and Keogh - top defenders in their own right and great partnership. Hughes - no comment needed. Bryson and Hendrick - if on form class (just a ? over the if) Thorne - when fit one of the best. Ince - get him playing and consistent top class Johnson - first 10-12 games looked great. Get him back to that level and he will be valuable. Butterfield - could flourish with right management. Olsson and Fozzy - two of the best left backs in the league. Martin - scores and creates enough said. Bent - still got it. Basically there are a few ifs in there but why go spending money when we potentially have all we need in the squad. If NP can manage them right I don't see who we have to fear. Look at Hanley and how much he went for, is he better than Keogh or Shack? I'm looking forward to an exciting season. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Needs another quality signing or two IMO. Wednesday will be better than last season, especially with Bannan and Abdi running the show. Norwich have a good squad, likewise Villa. How much of a difference will Nigel make? You're guess is as good as mine. One or two good signings and I'll believe again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Don't think Pearson has joined just to consolidate - promotion or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Well we weren't good enough last season...... So we were either poorly managed throughout the season or the players never performed throughout the season? All those teams that finished around us last season have in there capacity improved their squads with additions, so will we fighting for promotion without strengthening the team? We will soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seths-cap Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I like the fact we're taking our time, shows the clubs doing things the right way. The new manager is properly assessing what he already has, from the 1st team to the youth squads. We will sign players and they will be the right players for the roles required. Round pegs, round holes. It's actually making me excited that we have a manager prepared to take his time and be sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I believe we had many who didn't perform last year for various reasons, mainly the likes of Johnson Weiman Blackman camara bent who are all able to produce much more plus Hughes and Bryson fit all season would help immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seths-cap Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: I believe we had many who didn't perform last year for various reasons, mainly the likes of Johnson Weiman Blackman camara bent who are all able to produce much more plus Hughes and Bryson fit all season would help immensely. Johnson I'd agree with, looked lost second half of the season. But Weimann, Blackman and Camara never really got a look in. The Squad was bloated and you can't expect someone who's sat on the bench game after game to come on for 10 minutes and settle right in. All three of those players will have a much larger role to play this season and hopefully we'll get to see the best of them. I think Weimann & Camara will turn out to be great signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETRA Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I'm not worried about whether we have the quality players individually, it's quite obvious we should have. It's whether Pearson can get these players playing consistently well as a whole team that really matters. Let's all hope he does, otherwise it could be a very long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 42 minutes ago, toddy said: Well we weren't good enough last season...... So we were either poorly managed throughout the season or the players never performed throughout the season? All those teams that finished around us last season have in there capacity improved their squads with additions, so will we fighting for promotion without strengthening the team? We will soon find out. Ultimately we wer nt good enough last season but for me it was one of the most frustrating seasons ever ,,, you just knew we could and should have easily been good enough,,, even when we were top I looked at us and was frustrated because you could tell there was so much more ,, I truly believe that for whatever reasons the players did not buy in to clement and lost respect for him ,,, then wassell to the end of the season was on a hiding to nothing ,, the fans did not believe and I don't feel the players really did either ,,,,, so have we got enough this season without buying ? For me we just might have but probably need maybe 3 key buys but they can't be blind rushed buys for the sake of buying it needs exactly what is happening ,,,,,,,a proper manager to take charge give a clean sheet to all , know how he wants to mold the team , see who cuts it then ship out the players who can't measure up and bring in the right key players to bring it all together ,,, we knew last season that our team and squad were close but the buying and manager seemed if anything to take us backwards rather than improve on what we had ,,, this year seems vey different ,, we have a confident measured manager in place who will take his time to get it right ,, he's not a first time manager with his heart set on making headlines as being boy wonder in his first season then getting the Real Madrid job or such like ,, Nige is here to build and build right ,,,, have faith ,this is the start for us not another false dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Also I'm willing to bet there's not one single player at the club now who's thinking this Pearson bloke don't know what he's doing and that's priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 A couple of decent loan signings would do it for me.There are very few quality Championship players available for transfer but there will be a few players left out of Premier League squads who will do a good job on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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