loughboroughRAM Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Surprised there isn't already a topic about this but after the recent events up north its strikingly similar to our situation between 13/14 and 14/15? Beaten play off finalists after taking the league by surprise following a mid table finish the year before. Both had a close knit squad of players who had been around a while - not a 'quick fix' job. Both suffered 'Second season syndrome' whereby we were meeting expectations by being top or top two for large portions of the season before the annual 'Mid March Meltdown' takes effect after adding extra, big name players in January to help bolster the squad for the run in. Anyone else noticed these similarities or just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Continental-style coaches. Neither coach has any wheels left. Identical grounds Next to a river Clough statue Both sets of fans love Parmos (ok, I love Parmos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 And both clubs owned by a local man. At least Steve Mac won a trophy for them .. Their only one good point though, the expectation thing. As fans do we have an overblown sense of entitlement ? I don't think so. I just think it shows how difficult it is in a close league to get that extra 2-3% that turns a good team in to a winning team and to do it every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Quite amazed how they have imploded after the 2-0 reversal in Jan. Looked nailed on certs. Then again so did we after Boxing Day. Both bottlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 We have less teams to play in the top 9 than they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, plymouthram said: We have less teams to play in the top 9 than they do We have the same amount of teams in the top 24 to play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmo Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, eddie said: We have the same amount of teams in the top 24 to play though. Thanks Michael Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, eddie said: We have the same amount of teams in the top 24 to play though. They have still lost more games than us though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 hours ago, loughboroughRAM said: Surprised there isn't already a topic about this but after the recent events up north its strikingly similar to our situation between 13/14 and 14/15? Beaten play off finalists after taking the league by surprise following a mid table finish the year before. Both had a close knit squad of players who had been around a while - not a 'quick fix' job. Both suffered 'Second season syndrome' whereby we were meeting expectations by being top or top two for large portions of the season before the annual 'Mid March Meltdown' takes effect after adding extra, big name players in January to help bolster the squad for the run in. Anyone else noticed these similarities or just me? I already posted a sound theory. The Bamford effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 boro have made the same mistake as us and are experiencing player power, as we are. sign ed jordan rhodes on a bigger salary than the rest of them ? performances dip? doesnt it remind you of us signed new players on bigger wages rocks the ship only managers who are in a very strong position can get away with holding the team together so when we get a new manager lets have manager power and not player power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 both teams play high possession turgid football that is set up far too defensively to make it entertaining, imagine a Pearson/Mac combo that would be entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 We both had the same negative coach's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipad1977 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 11 hours ago, eddie said: We have less teams to play in the top 9 than they do. This actually works in Boro's favour, a team that throw all the logic of the game out of the window. So far losing to Charlton, Rotherham, Bristol City (twice) etc... Whereas aside from a defeat against Hull they've drew and won against Derby and wiped the floor with anyone else of the challengers in the top 6 convincingly to boot, home and away. The conclusion is that generally to beat Boro you have to be really really $hit. Whereas receiving a spanking from said team means you're destined for great things. If only Derby hadn't got that late equaliser at the Ipro they could have been merrily bouncing around the auto spots now. If Boro somehow find themselves in League One in a couple of years they'll get beat off all the lower class teams and sink without trace through the successive divisions. Whereas if they somehow get promoted they'll wipe the floor with most of every supposedly higher standard side up there in the Prem and end up doing a Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, barnsley ram said: boro have made the same mistake as us and are experiencing player power, as we are. sign ed jordan rhodes on a bigger salary than the rest of them ? performances dip? doesnt it remind you of us signed new players on bigger wages rocks the ship only managers who are in a very strong position can get away with holding the team together so when we get a new manager lets have manager power and not player power Sure I read somewhere that Rhodes had actually signed on the same money he was on at Blackburn but was in for a massive pay rise if they went up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 22 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Sure I read somewhere that Rhodes had actually signed on the same money he was on at Blackburn but was in for a massive pay rise if they went up Which is still a large amount of money since he's been with them since the season after they came down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, Palmo said: Which is still a large amount of money since he's been with them since the season after they came down. Can't imagine him being on more than downing though surely? Anyway looks like Karanka could well be staying with boro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Just now, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Can't imagine him being on more than downing though surely? Anyway looks like Karanka could well be staying with boro! I remember their were rumours that Rhodes wanted to be on £70,000 a week. Don't know how true they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Weird league boxing day a lot of fans were saying the leagues is Boro and Derbys no one catch them. Was great! Same with Brighton no one could catch them. Weird league.. Guess I'm saying the same about Burnley and Hull now. Wish we had a manager though look at Warnock (not saying he'd be the best for us but better then Wassall) till the end of the season he's done wonders there. What a great league I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Ashz09 said: Weird league boxing day a lot of fans were saying the leagues is Boro and Derbys no one catch them. Was great! Same with Brighton no one could catch them. Weird league.. Guess I'm saying the same about Burnley and Hull now. Wish we had a manager though look at Warnock (not saying he'd be the best for us but better then Wassall) till the end of the season he's done wonders there. What a great league I guess! It's a great league too. As opposed to Northampton Town who are great in League Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Both bottlers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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