Mostyn6 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Which option do you believe is the most likely to bring success to Derby County? (poll requested) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I voted manager i dont like the idea of a transfer committee (or whatever) bringing in players then the manager told oh just work with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Can we have : not bothered what he's called as long as we are winning more than losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, Boycie said: Can we have : not bothered what he's called as long as we are winning more than losing? sorry, you'll have to run that option by cornwall ram (i think it was him that asked for the poll) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 bloke controlling it all? Like when Billy turned the academy tap off? And we just have an overhaul when a new bloke comes in? Nah. I like Wassall being academy director and things keep ticking over in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, Mostyn6 said: sorry, you'll have to run that option by cornwall ram (i think it was him that asked for the poll) I will not talk to the underlings. Tell him to add it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well what does it matter? If Mel has these grand plans that have to be adhered to else you get sacked, it doesnt matter if you are a head coach or manager, you are restrained by the Chairman's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, Boycie said: I will not talk to the underlings. Tell him to add it. I can't add anything - I'm not worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I Think when clough was here the academy was run separately from the club,so that any change in the manager would not affect the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Which option do you believe is the most likely to bring success to Derby County? (poll requested) Thanks Mozza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Anything but the Spanish Inquisition. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, Boycie said: Can we have : not bothered what he's called as long as we are winning more than losing? No, that's just a cop out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, trevor1946 said: I Think when clough was here the academy was run separately from the club,so that any change in the manager would not affect the academy Nigel helped with organising the academy and was instrumental in bringing in the coaches. It was Nigel's focus on the academy which led to it being developed. He wanted it that way because it was part of his strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Thanks Mozza that is a different poster! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 And what Nigel did, we have carried on and added too. That's what people are voting against. They want the academy to fall under the control of a manager. It's alright voting for a manager but what if you hire a bad one that makes big changes? Then the next one makes big changes the other way. Then back again. Pretty soon the money dries up or isn't available. And the youth system dries up as there's a less clear route to the first team. We have an amazing youth set up. It can run independent of the senior set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: that is a different poster! lol thanks for clearing that up , son .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Alpha said: And what Nigel did, we have carried on and added too. That's what people are voting against. They want the academy to fall under the control of a manager. It's alright voting for a manager but what if you hire a bad one that makes big changes? Then the next one makes big changes the other way. Then back again. Pretty soon the money dries up or isn't available. And the youth system dries up as there's a less clear route to the first team. We have an amazing youth set up. It can run independent of the senior set up. Is it that amazing? It sounds and looks good, but what has it produced? Will and Jeff were already here before Clough and Wassall showed up - I'd say that it was more Nigel's willingness to play them than the academy's superb coaching that really developed them. Since then we've had Mason Bennett and Jamie Hanson. I'm not suggesting that the academy is poor or even not worthwhile. I would hope that the new 'supercharged' version would be even better. However, I aslo don't believe that it is producing enough to justify sacrificing the first team for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, CornwallRam said: Is it that amazing? It sounds and looks good, but what has it produced? Will and Jeff were already here before Clough and Wassall showed up - I'd say that it was more Nigel's willingness to play them than the academy's superb coaching that really developed them. Since then we've had Mason Bennett and Jamie Hanson. I'm not suggesting that the academy is poor or even not worthwhile. I would hope that the new 'supercharged' version would be even better. However, I aslo don't believe that it is producing enough to justify sacrificing the first team for. Rawson, Zanzala, Hanson and Lowe and one more will have or have had experience at this level this time next year. The U21's are highly rated and the 18's have suffered a bit because I think the u21's have pinched some to test them at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Did Clement get to choose his own back room guys, or was he just given them to work with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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