Carl Sagan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Interestingly, talking with a manager last week he said it's so much easier to control a game without the ball, and he often coaches his team without the ball. Simplistically, if you move your players to one side the opposition are forced to go down the other; if you get your defenders to squeeze up, you force the opposition to play over the top (and so on). Your shape without the ball dictates how those in possession play against you.All that said, I couldn't agree more with the need to ove the ball quickly, especially out of defence. Right now it seems that Keogh is the only one with the drive to be unpredictable and go forward, and play an incisive pass. Always on the front foot needs to become the motto for everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 When I hear direct I think of long balls over the top to Martin and think of Big Sam which sends me into a keyboard smashing rage.Tempo, it's all about tempo, moving the ball around quicker as we did under McClaren, I would wager a left testicle bet we dominated possession under the wally with the brolly in most games yet created more chances and scored more goals.I don't want us to turn into the Arsenal of the Championship, look how great we are with 80% possession, come get the ball from us nah nah nah nah, yet barely threaten in their half and win nothing, **** that. Catch teams on the break, don't give them chance to regroup and get men behind the ball, hit them hard and quick leaving the defence out of position, leaving spaces for Ince to run into.Come May let's not say didn't we look good but won jack ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 When I hear direct I think of long balls over the top to Martin and think of Big Sam which sends me into a keyboard smashing rage.Tempo, it's all about tempo, moving the ball around quicker as we did under McClaren, I would wager a left testicle bet we dominated possession under the wally with the brolly in most games yet created more chances and scored more goals.I don't want us to turn into the Arsenal of the Championship, look how great we are with 80% possession, come get the ball from us nah nah nah nah, yet barely threaten in their half and win nothing, **** that. Catch teams on the break, don't give them chance to regroup and get men behind the ball, hit them hard and quick leaving the defence out of position, leaving spaces for Ince to run into.Come May let's not say didn't we look good but won jack ****.That's why you manage a forum and not a football team!Its fine keeping possession, keep the ball moving, but we need to find Martin with his back to goal 30 yards out. We don't need the killer chip or hollywood pass, just get it into Chrissy to lay it off for midfield runners.That then creates space and drags defenders out of position so when the ball comes flying into the box we have 3 or 4 running on to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 That's why you manage a forum and not a football team!Its fine keeping possession, keep the ball moving, but we need to find Martin with his back to goal 30 yards out. We don't need the killer chip or hollywood pass, just get it into Chrissy to lay it off for midfield runners.That then creates space and drags defenders out of position so when the ball comes flying into the box we have 3 or 4 running on to it.To be fair tho I run a bloody good forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't want us to turn into the Arsenal of the Championship,Hmm.... I dunno... 4th place? I'd have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hmm.... I dunno... 4th place? I'd have that.Would rather take 1st place which £20m spent on top of a team that finished 3rd a couple seasons ago should achieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 To be fair tho I run a bloody good forumOccasionally you get the tactics wrong but your team selection is first class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Occasionally you get the tactics wrong but your team selection is first class.I'm like Fergie before retirement, assembling an average squad and turning them into a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm like Fergie before retirement, assembling an average squad and turning them into a winning team.Is Boycie Darren Fletcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Is Boycie Darren Fletcher?More like Robbie Savage, all about the image, look at me but ultimately a waste of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 IMO there's not much wrong in our game at the moment. It's hard to be more direct against well drilled sides, it easily goes to hoofing and we certainly doesn't have forwards to that. Passing of course has been more slick and faster, but that's what Will Hughes brings...How may deflected goals we have conceded already? and what is usually the season average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughandtaylor Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 A tad more direct?Isn't that how CM scored his first goal?Not sure way should be resorting to long ball to often , I think a bit of both, passing close football on the ground and when we having problems breaking down defences, then try a longer pass.I am abit concerned that we have lost all the forward play we had under Mac, what we sorted out is that defence, we are not leaking goals like we did last season. The slick passing has gone, the pace has ghone and I think thats why Ince is struggling....We only seem to put in good performances in only half of each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Occasionally you get the tactics wrong but your team selection is first class. Like they say, Utch... You're only as strong as your weakest link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 IMO there's not much wrong in our game at the moment. It's hard to be more direct against well drilled sides, it easily goes to hoofing and we certainly doesn't have forwards to that. Passing of course has been more slick and faster, but that's what Will Hughes brings...How may deflected goals we have conceded already? and what is usually the season average?Probably due to lack of closing down. We don't seem to attempt a tackle until it's on the edge of our own box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Think both brad and butters introduction is a more direct style of play. Both like a long shot and butterfields through balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Teams are scoring against us with less passing , and I meant more play like the first goal at Preston, and a Russell goal of a couple of seasons ago from an absolutely fantastic ball from Thorne.Nothing wrong will passing the ball of the opposition a la Barca ,but lets have some explosive counter attacking a la Real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheltenhamRam Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thought this was the case last night too for what it's worth. Really missing the GT Hughes spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Don't have to worry about too many passes last night. Percentage football. Think we had 46% possession 72% accuracy until the sending off and made 25 passes in the final 3rd in the entire first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There is lots of comments about possession and passing. The blogs headline was to be a tad more direct. What about us committing more to shooting at goal. With Bradley Johnson, Jake Butterfield, Tom Ince and Jonny Russell in the team surely it should be shoot on sight instead of trying to pass it into the box all the time. Lets mix it up and try and stop the opponents having easy plans on how to defend against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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