Carl Sagan Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I was out with Paul Tisdale last night who manages Exeter City (Matt Oakley, aged 39 is his captain and apparently still playing well!). We were talking about a lot of things, but something he said really struck me. He wants to know as early as possible in the run up to the next game how the opposition is going to line up and who's playing. Any intelligence he gets before 2pm (teamsheet posted) on a Saturday is like gold dust. He is required to speak to the press every Thursday in the run up to the weekend game, but never gives anything away (or I wonder if he sows some misinformation). He said that a common mistake of rookie managers is to reveal far too much to the press in advance.Today (Thursday) I see Clement has announced in their press briefing that George Thorne isn't going to be fit for Preston (or the game after) and that Bryson won't be fit for the game either. What possible good reason is there for saying that to the press? Isn't it better for us if Preston waste a lot of their time in the run up to the game planning how to try to neutralize Thorne, which they might given he's such a key player for us? I cannot fathom why the coach would out this kind of info so freely - keep your opponents guessing!Is it just me or do we give too much away when it comes to the fitness of the players and our likely selection in the run up to a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I don't think it's unusual to hear managers - of any level or experience - say how long they expect certain players to be out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seths-cap Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Well said, you take any advantage you can in football, hopefully with time PC will start using the media more to his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I really don't think it matters at all. Play well and we'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I was out with Paul Tisdale last night who manages Exeter City (Matt Oakley, aged 39 is his captain and apparently still playing well!). We were talking about a lot of things, but something he said really struck me. He wants to know as early as possible in the run up to the next game how the opposition is going to line up and who's playing. Any intelligence he gets before 2pm (teamsheet posted) on a Saturday is like gold dust. He is required to speak to the press every Thursday in the run up to the weekend game, but never gives anything away (or I wonder if he sows some misinformation). He said that a common mistake of rookie managers is to reveal far too much to the press in advance.Today (Thursday) I see Clement has announced in their press briefing that George Thorne isn't going to be fit for Preston (or the game after) and that Bryson won't be fit for the game either. What possible good reason is there for saying that to the press? Isn't it better for us if Preston waste a lot of their time in the run up to the game planning how to try to neutralize Thorne, which they might given he's such a key player for us? I cannot fathom why the coach would out this kind of info so freely - keep your opponents guessing!Is it just me or do we give too much away when it comes to the fitness of the players and our likely selection in the run up to a game?It doesn't really matter, if playing well and we'll win for sure!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Probably more important for Exeter tbh as their pool of players available is much more limited.For Derby at present, it's more of a mystery regarding our potential formation(s) that would be worth knowing in advance. So on that front, you'd need to resurrect Bletchley to get anywhere close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 DEL and RLACML agreeing on something, this is biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 DEL and RLACML agreeing on something, this is biblical.what? Please don't mention that name in same post many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenwichRam Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I was out with Paul Tisdale last night who manages Exeter City (Matt Oakley, aged 39 is his captain and apparently still playing well!). We were talking about a lot of things, but something he said really struck me. He wants to know as early as possible in the run up to the next game how the opposition is going to line up and who's playing. Any intelligence he gets before 2pm (teamsheet posted) on a Saturday is like gold dust. He is required to speak to the press every Thursday in the run up to the weekend game, but never gives anything away (or I wonder if he sows some misinformation). He said that a common mistake of rookie managers is to reveal far too much to the press in advance.Today (Thursday) I see Clement has announced in their press briefing that George Thorne isn't going to be fit for Preston (or the game after) and that Bryson won't be fit for the game either. What possible good reason is there for saying that to the press? Isn't it better for us if Preston waste a lot of their time in the run up to the game planning how to try to neutralize Thorne, which they might given he's such a key player for us? I cannot fathom why the coach would out this kind of info so freely - keep your opponents guessing!Is it just me or do we give too much away when it comes to the fitness of the players and our likely selection in the run up to a game?Unless, of course, either one if these is going to be available. Seem to remember under Davies a few injured players miraculously recovering before kick-off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Unless, of course, either one if these is going to be available. Seem to remember under Davies a few injured players miraculously recovering before kick-off! If only. I remember the amazement arriving at Pride Park under Uncle George to discover Idiakez and Rasiak were in fact playing in the playoff second leg. He'd done brilliantly to keep that under wraps.As said above, everything to gain whatever advantage we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 He said that a common mistake of rookie managers is to reveal far too much to the press in advance.Pretty sure the experienced McClaren would let us know when a player was going to be missing the next match due to injury. Don't think this has anything to do with our "rookie" head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 When do they have to put the match squad in? Pretty sure that would give the game away anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 When do they have to put the match squad in? Pretty sure that would give the game away anyway.An hour before kickoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Or is it down to public demand, we have all wanted to know the extent of Thorne's injury since he was subbed off against leeds . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 If only. I remember the amazement arriving at Pride Park under Uncle George to discover Idiakez and Rasiak were in fact playing in the playoff second leg. He'd done brilliantly to keep that under wraps.As said above, everything to gain whatever advantage we can.Yes and both were nowhere near fit. We lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Managers at all levels and years of experience say whether a player is available or not - Especially when they are out for more than one game. His annoucement suggests to me that he is going to be having a period, longer than 1 or 2 games, out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Surely though each manager does things in his own way ! Some managers even name the full team days before ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Reverse psychology, they both start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 We don't know whether PC knows his best team yet.....never mind tell anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsall_Ram Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Gary Rowett pretty much summed it all up post match on Sky before our fixture. Said all the noises coming out of us was that we were going to deploy 2 strikers due to the lack of fire power we had produced in the previous games. (trying to find a clip of it but there doesn't seem to be any) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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