Wolfie Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Please come back and take me with you. The promised land is but 30 minutes down the road paved with gold (also known as the A1 southbound). I made it out alive to the lush daisy-filled meadows of utopian Newark-on-Trent and so can you, my friend. Be strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I think a lot would be annoyed at that. That's why most waiting staff, myself included, just see tips as a bonus. Well that's fair enough, although I still think there's an inconsistent culture that has crept in with regard to the hospitality trade that doesn't apply to the rest of society.I've met a few who do see it as an entitlement though, considering how much moaning they do about it. What's your opinion on tips that automatically get worked into the bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 You're just being pedantic now. Or you eat out at rubbish places. Not pedantic, just trying to get my head around why restaurant staff should get tips but not other jobs which offer a service.Electricians, TV & Internet installers, Dentist's, Mechanics, McDonalds workers, I could go on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'd say this poll is one of the closest I've seen on a forum lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Well that's fair enough, although I still think there's an inconsistent culture that has crept in with regard to the hospitality trade that doesn't apply to the rest of society.I've met a few who do see it as an entitlement though, considering how much moaning they do about it. What's your opinion on tips that automatically get worked into the bill? I do agree with you to a point. Blame the culture though, not the staff. I don't like that at all. I don't like all tips together and split at the end of the year between everyone either. If a young devochka on £3 an hour has been friendly and helpful all evening, maybe going the extra mile, I want her to have a tip that I choose which might work out at a couple of hours wages for her, and worth more than it does to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 I don't see it as a different kind of interaction, if you are doing a weekly shop it could cost more than a night out in a restaurant, you would also like the same level of service with a smile, a checkout worker with a face on her throwing your food down the belt it can also ruin the experience. If you also add up the time a waiter/ess visits your table compared to how long you spend in front of a checkout worker I would say it was about the same, if not more with the checkout depending on the amount of shopping. In my head they are very different because one is normally an optional and pleasurable experience and the other is a necessary evil. Maybe I just enjoy going out for meals a lot more than I do the weekly shop - though 90% of my grocery shopping is online nowadays anyway.Poor service in a restaurant means (for me) that what should have been a good night out is spoilt. Poor service at the checkout would just be the sour icing on an unpleasant cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 In my head they are very different because one is normally an optional and pleasurable experience and the other is a necessary evil. Maybe I just enjoy going out for meals a lot more than I do the weekly shop - though 90% of my grocery shopping is online nowadays anyway. Poor service in a restaurant means (for me) that what should have been a good night out is spoilt. Poor service at the checkout would just be the sour icing on an unpleasant cake. Supermarket shopping is optional.....could just send the missus Now this is pedantic I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I do agree with you to a point. Blame the culture though, not the staff. I don't like that at all. I don't like all tips together and split at the end of the year between everyone either. If a young devochka on £3 an hour has been friendly and helpful all evening, maybe going the extra mile, I want her to have a tip that I choose which might work out at a couple of hours wages for her, and worth more than it does to me. £3 an hour!?!? In total?I was under the impression that the employer had to guarantee that if the tips didn't add up to minimum wage then they would supplement the rest? Not that I agree that that's how it should be done. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'd say this poll is one of the closest I've seen on a forum lolI think Derby County should be an option. Up there for 6 months only to sink like a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Minimum wage for U18's is £3.79, 18-20 £5.13 and £6.50 over 21's. £3 would be illegal.....unless it's an apprentice which is £2.73ph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I wasn't talking literally £3. I just know that the young girls at work are one £3 odd an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Hooray for pedantry again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I tip, and normally over the odds. The tax man tends to tax servers more because they assume they're getting tips on top of their regular pay packet. When they don't come through it means a higher rate of tax is hitting their minimum wage hard.My sister told me this and she worked her way up from a waitress to assistant restaurant manager at a swank michelin star restaurant, and she tips crazy money where ever she goes because she knows how hard it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I went most of the time in the poll.Always tip in restaurants, always tip taxi drivers. Used to bung the bin men a tenner every Christmas but they've got ar$ey about letting you bung an extra bag in if the bin's full so stopped Christmas before last.People who deliver furniture and have been careful get a drink an' all, not trying to be flash, just carrying on what my parents did, just the done thing I suppose.If somebody doesn't tip it's none of my business and fair play to them if they think that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Principally, I would only tip if the service has been above and beyond. But I've never tipped as I can honestly say nobody has ever impressed me to that degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I wasn't talking literally £3. I just know that the young girls at work are one £3 odd an hour. Ah. Think it's in the U.S. where what I said is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I tip (usually 10-15%) - because I'm not a tightwad. Waiting on tables is not a profession - it is invariably the occupation of someone struggling to make ends meet, and if I can help them a little, then I will - gladly. I don't feel obliged or pressured into doing it. Same at the casino - the drinks waiter always gets a tip, the croupier does too if I've won.Just the way I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I will tip in a restaurant if the service has been good, the food is good, and the waiter/waitress is pleasant. Anything goes wrong, be it service/a waiter/waitress without a smile or who doesnt listen/bad food, then i dont tip.Tipping cultures around the world annoy me, when in new york the first american i had contact with was the driver of the transfer shuttle (which was pre paid), the smallest note i had was $20 so no way was he having that, so i chose not to tip...i got a real mouthfull of him. All he had done was drive a shuttle bus, which we had had to wait over an hour for even though it was prebooked. However we sat in the boat house in central park, had a few drinks, great service and entertainment from the barmen, they got a good tip.Likewise when in Cuba, went on a trip to havana which cost about £150.00 for two of us, at the end i went in my pocket to pull out a tip, £2-3, when the tour rep came over saying its customary to tip and it should be about 20% of the cost of the trip...lol, my small tip went back in my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I tip (usually 10-15%) - because I'm not a tightwad. Waiting on tables is not a profession - it is invariably the occupation of someone struggling to make ends meet, and if I can help them a little, then I will - gladly. I don't feel obliged or pressured into doing it. Same at the casino - the drinks waiter always gets a tip, the croupier does too if I've won. Just the way I am. Insulting of people who don't subscribe to your way of thinking? Yes Eddie. We know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I do tip but it varies depenging on the service, place and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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