bcnram Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Since when has Martin, indeed any player, guaranteed us 20+ goals a season? He has got 20 goals in each of the last 2 seasons, but has never achieved that previously with any club. I think there is so much speculation on this thread, that presumes that PC is going to continue to play the same way -style and formation - as Mac did. If we are, then keeping Martin, and playing to his evident strengths, is a very good idea. But that style hasn't got us very far in the last 2 seasons in reality, and therefore I do wonder whether PC is proposing a major change. Personally, I think McCormack is a far better player than Martin, but I would agree neither McCormack or Rhodes are suited for, or could play as well, in the "pivot role" that Martin has played for the last 2 years. Got to disagree that the recent style hasn't got us anywhere. The season before last it got us from mid-table to the play off final. Last season it got us into the automatic promotion places until the loss of Martin through injury. McClaren didn't adapt resulting in the team being under unnecessary pressure too many times. Martin is the best player I have seen in that position at Derby since John O'Hare; maybe even better, certainly more prolific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 any bid over 7 million and we should sell i think we have anough now without him , thinks hes great but 7 million is alot of bread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 any bid over 7 million and we should sell i think we have anough now without him , thinks hes great but 7 million is alot of breadtake it you didn't watch us much since January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 go every week man we didnt have weiman last season was my thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 any bid over 7 million and we should sell i think we have anough now without him , thinks hes great but 7 million is alot of breadI don't see anyone else in our current squad who can hold into the ball. Why would we sell him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 It's ok guys... Sammon is back in the mix now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I don't see anyone in our current squad who can hold into the ball. Why would we sell him?you presume we will play the same way under clement? i not so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Erm Martin is 3 goals away for eaching 100 goals at Derby... Wait he ain't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 17 pages on an alleged baseless, rubbish story from HITC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 At least treble £900m, we'd then think about it for a couple of seconds and still knock it back!!!!! Super Chris Martin training with the lads today Anyone else notice bryson giving ince the finger? 0.23 sec in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 17 pages on an alleged baseless, rubbish story from HITC... Goes to show that season should start about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 HITC is rubbish tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Anyone else notice bryson giving ince the finger? 0.23 sec inYes and that's very rude the club should SELL him ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 HITC is rubbish tbh. So are most of your opinions, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I did couch my reply by saying, hasn't got us anywhere in REALITY. I have enjoyed our style and formation, but in terms of the ultimate goal it has delivered sweet FA.The next big purchase, and there clearly is one as even Mel seems to want to promote the news, will tell us whether we are playing differently next season, and whether Martin fits a formation change. The purchase of Weimann in particular, together with bringing Bent and Ince back too, makes me think we will not be having a "pivot" this year, or if we do it will be in midfield.I like Martin, and he is a very good and essential player in the role we have given him over the last 2 years. I think he is similar in some ways to Paul Goddard who similarly was brilliant at bringing others into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder why Bryson did that, it was clearly behind his back and wasn't in the form of banter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 you presume we will play the same way under clement? i not so sure I presume nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Anyone else notice bryson giving ince the finger? 0.23 sec inI have a feeling Bryson wont be around much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder why Bryson did that, it was clearly behind his back and wasn't in the form of banter... It's stupid is it? No one else would do that right?I have a feeling Bryson wont be around much longer.Hope so!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I have always liked Bryson as a player but from seeing interviews over the years I've always had the impression he is an arrogant little git.Maybe flipping the bird was more innocent than it looks, but to me he could be the turd in the punch bowl.Get him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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