davenportram Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 actually looking at the overhead shot it were a permanent expansion then the pillars wouldnt need to be moved backwards, just a steeper deck built because the existing rood line follows all the wat round the ground. As the current steel work that wraps over the roof is bolted on it would be a case of unbolt the roof, wack in a joining upright and bolt the roof on. Then build s steeper seating deck giving more seats http://www.premierfootballbooks.co.uk/images/derby_aerial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'm sure a structural engineer would cringe reading this. I'd have thought if the plans included the ability to extend the ground later, as has been established, then that is exactly what can happen. Meanwhile a human-built space probe is set to pay Pluto a visit 4.7 billion miles away but PP is too tricky to extend lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'm sure a structural engineer would cringe reading this. I'd have thought if the plans included the ability to extend the ground later, as has been established, then that is exactly what can happen. Meanwhile a human-built space probe is set to pay Pluto a visit 4.7 billion miles away but PP is too tricky to extend lol. Read it properly. Of course it can be extended. I have said this numerous times. The issue is whether it is easy to extend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's not made of Meccano, of course it's not easy to extend. It's doable and that's what matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's not made of Meccano, of course it's not easy to extend. It's doable and that's what matters... It would have been easy if the column design had had just a little more thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It would have been easy if the column design had had just a little more thought. But a steeper seating deck can increase seating capacity without moving the columns back. Unbolt roof stealwork bolt on column extension, bolt roof back on. Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 But a steeper seating deck can increase seating capacity without moving the columns back. Unbolt roof stealwork bolt on column extension, bolt roof back on. Done Moving the columns back? So you're suggesting removing roof and removing the existing tiers to increase the pitch to gain a few extra rows? Good grief..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Moving the columns back? So you're suggesting removing roof and removing the existing tiers to increase the pitch to gain a few extra rows? Good grief..... The amount of extra rows would depend on the pitch. And there is also no need to remove the existing one at all. Just done some rough maths and an increase in angle from 30 to 35 degrees generates a 20percent increase in depth of the seating area. Obviously I have no idea what the current pitch is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Here's a thought. What do people think our ideal capacity should be? Our current 33k or an increase to 44k or somewhere between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 33k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The amount of extra rows would depend on the pitch. And there is also no need to remove the existing one at all. Just done some rough maths and an increase in angle from 30 to 35 degrees generates a 20percent increase in depth of the seating area. Obviously I have no idea what the current pitch is though Jeeze i thought your comment was tongue in cheek. Its easier to cut the top off the columns.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I fink we should triple the size of the south stand and make it a cop. And anyone that disagrees wiv me is a complete **** ***** ****** ***** ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Here's a thought. What do people think our ideal capacity should be? Our current 33k or an increase to 44k or somewhere between the two? The world cup feasi shows how hard it is to achieve a big expansion. Any option which involved tresspassing over the road or adjacent land - as described - is in reality a non-starter. Not sure of the exact boundary positions but it looks like space is quite limited behind both the north and south stands. I'd be surprised if was practically possible to add more than another 1500 to each Similarly the east stand - maybe another 2000-2500. But its probably not worth it....thats why expansion all round was the club's least favourite option. Those redundant piles will probably never get used. The problem is that the extra capacity is really required in the away end. 2300 is a quite tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboRam Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 To all those excessively concerned about how hard this potential expansion would be - chill out, somebody else will do it for us. You don't need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 To all those excessively concerned about how hard this potential expansion would be - chill out, somebody else will do it for us. You don't need to worry. Have you seen the state of buildings constructed over the last 10 years in Derby. People should be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 To all those excessively concerned about how hard this potential expansion would be - chill out, somebody else will do it for us. You don't need to worry. Yes I could do it. Most of you couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes I could do it. Most of you couldn't. Ooooh, hark at Johnny Hotpants here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboRam Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes I could do it. Most of you couldn't. Go on then! Get on with it Billy bullsh1t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 33k. Perfect. Sold out every week in the Prem. Supply and demand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Go on then! Get on with it Billy bullsh1t. Go back to squeezing your spots. I simply got sick of all the snidey comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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