AshfieldRam Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 8pm kick off! Anybody seen about the drama outside the ground? Apparently Chile fans broke down a gate and ran into the stadium Football wise I think it'll be 2-1 to Spain. Costa to score first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Amazing to think that less than a week into the tournament, Spain are already in the last chance saloon, I reckon they'll get a decent win tonight - IF they get an early goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Chile national anthem is the best in the competition...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Looks Sounds like Chile has home advantage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'd love to see a draw, just to put Spain in a corner ^_^ Won't happen though, Spanish midfield is too strong for them. Chile's anthem was really impressive, intimidating for Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Spain nearly got an early goal, against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oh dear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Spain are now 2 goals from safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Shocking defence from Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Great goal, defence cut to bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Spain not looking good. Come on Chile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 2-0 omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Actually quite liking Danny Murphy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Spain going out the World Cup in group stage and that's crazy. Who would have thought that the World Champions out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Iker Casillas international career coming to an end here. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bring on Torres it will be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The picture for Spain is clear, a loss makes it:Netherlands: 6 points, +5Chile: 6 points, +2 [+s]Australia: 0 points, -3Spain: 0 points, -4 [-s]Where 's' is the number of goals Chile beats them by.A draw makes it:Netherlands: 6 points, +5Chile: 4 points, +2Spain: 1 point, -4Australia: 0 points, -3They would need to hope that the Dutch beat Chile, and that they not only be Australia, but the goal difference falls in their favour. If the Dutch win by 'n' and the Spainish win by 'm', then 'n+m' would need to be at least 5. If it is 5 the question becomes more complex of course. If I recall it goes to goals scored, for which Chile have 3 from the opening game, them 1. In the case of a draw that 2 goal lead would remain. That means that they'd need to score at least 2 more than Chile. If it is two more than Chile, and all that happens, it would be very interesting to see what happens, as the next criteria is results between teams, and it being a draw would mean they are equal on all given criteria. I think from there they draw lots. I'll look into past examples, if there are any.Of course, the win is the best for Spain:Netherlands: 6, +5Chile: 3, +2 [-p]Spain: 3, -4 [+p]Australia: 0, -3Where 'p' is the number of goals Spain win by. They'd want a big win as well, as a Chile win against the Dutch could well send them home without a mammoth win against Australia.Taking that final table above though, and thinking about results, a win for Spain and a draw or loss for Chile puts Spain through. If Spain draw they need the Dutch to win unless they beat Chile by 3 or more. If they do end up level on points and goal difference, they'd need to score more in their draw than Chile did. Equal goes to lots again from what I can tell.The most complex scenario is a Spanish and Chilean win on that final day. If Spain win by 'a' and Chile by 'b', then p+(a-b)>3 puts Spain through, p+(a-b)<3 puts Chile through and p+(a-b)=3 of course puts it to goals scored. If 'A' are the total goals scored by Spain in that final match and 'B' are Chile's, then A-B>2 puts Spain through, A-B<2 puts Chile through and A-B=0 puts it to results between the teams, which would have required a Spainish win, hence they go through.Of course, if Australia beats Spain by 'x' goals and Chile lose by 'y' goals. Then if x+p+y>5 (and it has to be at least 3 for this to occur) Australia go through x+p+y<5 Chile go through and x+p+y=5 it goes to goals scored. With Australia having 3 now and Chile having 3 in their opening game, then Australia would need to have scored how many they score today and how many they score on the final match day +1 to through, as equal would have Chile go through thanks to the 3-1 loss on the first match day.This all said, Spain are on the absolute brink now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bris ??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Fair score so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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