Martyn Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can guarantee Keogh will not be dropping to the bench. As soon as McClaren came in, he said that we had a good squad here and he didn't want to change too much. To not only relieve Keogh of his captaincy, but also drop him, would probably be one of the worst things he could do for squad morale. Really? Do you not think some of the other players are not looking at his performance and thinking he needs to be dropped? I'll be disappointed if Keogh remains "untouchable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Really? Do you not think some of the other players are not looking at his performance and thinking he needs to be dropped? I'll be disappointed if Keogh remains "untouchable". Ignoring the fact that he was Player Of The Year last year, he's not even been the worst performer this year. Therefore, to make an example out of him because he's captain (which is what it would be) would just be wrong. There's certainly a couple of players I'd drop before him. Not saying he's untouchable. I just don't think we should depose him until Barker's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Keogh has under performed this year - both Buxton and Whitbread have played better than him. I don't think being club captain should make you untouchable - if you are not consistently on form you should be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Keogh has under performed this year - both Buxton and Whitbread have played better than him. I don't think being club captain should make you untouchable - if you are not consistently on form you should be dropped. Why should Keogh get the chop when there's two players who've been worse than him in that back four alone (Smith & Forsyth)? Both of them have been consistently poor since they got here whereas Keogh was POTY last season. It would be making an example of him, which isn't fair. Plus, with all this turmoil off the pitch, it's probably best for things like the captaincy to remain stable to help steady the ship a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormantonRam Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Agree that both full backs need to up it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Agree that both full backs need to up it. Massively in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Why should Keogh get the chop when there's two players who've been worse than him in that back four alone (Smith & Forsyth)? Both of them have been consistently poor since they got here whereas Keogh was POTY last season. It would be making an example of him, which isn't fair. Plus, with all this turmoil off the pitch, it's probably best for things like the captaincy to remain stable to help steady the ship a bit. Because Wisdom us a CB so can replace Keogh- we haven't got any better full backs to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Just been on midlands today (west) saying that they're denying a successful take over bid, maybe the perfect time to play them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Because Wisdom us a CB so can replace Keogh- we haven't got any better full backs to replace them. Wisdom's primarily a right-back and I'd also say Freeman's been better than Smith when he's played. I can understand that with the LB situation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramshankered Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Doesn't Freeman play LB too? Wouldn't mind giving him a whirl there. Forsyth made mistake after mistake at Watford - looks short on confidence to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Forsyth looked great against Leeds but then has a mare against Watford, I think he's still settling into the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pej1956 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Agree that both full backs need to up it. Yep an area of weakness. I think Freeman was unlucky to lose his place (a victim of NC arrogance) so I would put him in and look for a new LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Wisdom's primarily a right-back and I'd also say Freeman's been better than Smith when he's played. I can understand that with the LB situation though. When did he change position - everyone's been saying he's a CB who can play RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 4-1 Ward, Martin, Bryson and Sammon Lingard with a consolation for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can't help but fancy us for this, which is usually a bad sign Derby 4-1 Birmingham FGS Martin Bryson to score another one, and rumours of a £2 million bid from an unnamed club begin to circulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 'Small town in Aston , you're just a small town in Aston .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Don't know if I'm repeating what someone has already said, but for me this is a massive game. Birmingham are there for the taking, and we've got a good chance to really muscle in around the playoff zone. We all know how this type of game has ended in the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 3-1 derby, martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 When did he change position - everyone's been saying he's a CB who can play RB. Unless he's played CB at U21 level, I don't actually think he's made the full transition there yet unless he's had to cover injuries. However, it's where most people predict him to end up as he's got the more suitable build and struggles with tricky wingers. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 More than at the Leeds game expected according to the club. Decent considering Brum won't bring more than 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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