G STAR RAM Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Blackpool will have to change their name, as will Blackburn. Should have happened years ago in my opinion, clearly a reference to black people being burned by the Ku Klux Klan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Did they really drown black people in a pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 You cheeky monkey! But I'm not black Dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I just thought it was a **** and pointless analogy. Imagine if Rio was there.. 'kin hell.. twitter would have been a hot bed. Clough for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 My family was robbed in Miami once.. The first thing the officer asked me was if the suspects were black or white.. It can obviously be used in descriptions... There is no harm in saying someone is tall or overweight so using the words black or white for an ethnic description shouldn't be frowned upon.. But Morgan Freedman is right.. Stop talking about racism, stop these idiots who when they hear the word 'black' 'banana' 'monkey' etc.. automatically assume someone is being racist and you're on your way.. Racism does exist in the world (far eastern Europe) and these black lawyers association and other groups should be doing their best to stop that rather than looking for problems in decent human beings in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 My family was robbed in Miami once.. The first thing the officer asked me was if the suspects were black or white.. It can obviously be used in descriptions... There is no harm in saying someone is tall or overweight so using the words black or white for an ethnic description shouldn't be frowned upon.. But Morgan Freedman is right.. Stop talking about racism, stop these idiots who when they hear the word 'black' 'banana' 'monkey' etc.. automatically assume someone is being racist and you're on your way.. Racism does exist in the world (far eastern Europe) and these black lawyers association and other groups should be doing their best to stop that rather than looking for problems in decent human beings in the UK Or maybe they should take a look in the mirror if they are looking for racists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Or maybe they should take a look in the mirror if they are looking for racists? Deffo. What mindset are you in if you hear 'monkey' and instantly link it with racism. Any of you chaps carrying a bit of sleeping muscle? If somebody used the phrase 'the elephant in the room' would you feel offended? Common Sense should be like a qualification or something. The most important qualification for any job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Oh my word! Just heard the expression 'black sheep of the family' used on BBC1. Does anyone know if there is a Kick It Out campaign for Strictly Come Dancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eddie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Oh my word! Just heard the expression 'black sheep of the family' used on BBC1. Does anyone know if there is a Kick It Out campaign for Strictly Come Dancing? Dead right. Shouldn't describe people as 'sheep' - it's ovinist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I read this this morning. I thought it quite interesting http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/14172#.UmOb_hZSzzI The not-so-strange affair of the Space Monkeys The furore over some utterly inoffensive remarks by England manager Roy Hodgson shows the power of speech etiquette today. s someone who has worked with classrooms of schoolkids over the years, hearing a child use a word that could be deemed offensive in the adult world is a common experience. Invariably, no one in the room - child or adult - is offended, but the teacher will often feel duty bound to explain that this word is indeed ‘offensive’. This week’s saga involving England football manager Roy Hodgson and his Space Monkey comment puts me in mind of a teacher I worked with in Brighton, who likened the unruly behaviour of his class with monkeys only to have a grinning mixed race kid tell him he’d committed a ‘racist incident’. (Indeed, according to the school’s policy, he had.) And then there was the teacher in Bristol accused of racism for allowing children to play monkeys in a school production calledEnchanted Island. A number of boys had chosen the monkey roles, but the mother of a black child complained. In Hodgson’s case, no one has claimed to be offended by his half-time pep talk to players, which alluded to an old joke-turned-adage originating at NASA, but a player or coach tweeted Hodgson’s use of ‘monkey’ to the press. Not even Andros Townsend, the player cited in Hodgson’s adage, or his father Troy Townsend, who is involved in the FA’s anti-racism Kick It Out campaign, claimed to be remotely offended. On hitting the news headlines, the story failed to generate a single declaration of offence. The best anyone could come up with was Piara Powar, executive director of Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE), who said ‘Hodgson used a very silly term in a diverse team environment’. Welcome to the tongue-twisting world of today’s speech regulation. The lack of any complainant doesn’t matter. It was ‘insensitive’, and so you can’t say that. When the black comedian Reginald D Hunter offended some audience members at the Professional Footballers Association awards dinner by using the word ‘nigga’, Kick it Out condemned any use of the ‘n-word’, ‘irrespective of context’. Of course the m-word, monkey, isn’t in the same league as the n-word (much to the relief of zookeepers) and so context comes rolling back in. Even the chair of Kick it Out, Lord Herman Ouseley, could only summon up a half-hearted call for an investigation. What Ouseley really needed was that arch defender of the racially offended, Peter Herbert, to chime in. Last year, Herbert, chair of the Society of Black Lawyers, reported his racially offended feelings to the police following media coverage of a game between Manchester United and Chelsea, during which referee Mark Clattenburg was alleged to have called Chelsea’s John Mikel Obi a ‘monkey’ (he didn’t). Herbert’s complaint was still enough to have the Metropolitan Police open an investigation. In the Space Monkey case, the obvious fact that Hodgson neither intended nor actually committed any act of racism would matter not to the likes of Herbert. A true zealot of the mindset that brought us the Macpherson Report in the late 1990s, Herbert views a racist incident as any incident perceived to be racist by the victim or, failing that, perceived to be racist by him! The Space Monkey story may well go down as ridiculous to most commentators and it may well have left anti-racism campaigners slightly embarrassed. But the fact that it can happen at all is testament to the suffocating atmosphere of linguistic correctness, which continues to seep into all aspects of social life. Adrian Hart is a film-maker and researcher, and author of the Manifesto Club report, The Myth of Racist Kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Why did Hodgson feel the need to apologise? Surely the proper response to this kind of cobblers is to say "Sod off and grow up you halfwits". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Why did Hodgson feel the need to apologise? Surely the proper response to this kind of cobblers is to say "Sod off and grow up you halfwits". Dichotomy alert - the epithet has seemingly contradictory meanings as follows: 1. A derogatory term for the intellectually challenged. 2. A compliment used in order to describe the brightest of Forest fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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