TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Has anyone ever seen Clough make a tactical substitution? I'm not talking about replacing a tired/injured Jamie Ward, or Craig Bryson. I mean a change of tactics. It NEVER happens. We bossed the first half, then broken nose changed things at half time. It was obvious, after ten minutes of the second half, that things needed to change. Clough never changes anything, and once Broken nose realised that, he made another change, that made them more competitive, and eventually won them the game. Infuriating to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Cue happy clappers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 where have you been recently, you know during our 3 wins in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 At the games, and on tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Erm so tactically awesome was Mad Mick they had a massive two shots - yep eminently more competetivr against us after making those changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Sorry, what was the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I am a big Clough fan (happy clapper if thats what floats your boat) But I agree One of cloughs biggest weaknesses is changing things during the game and I think it is because if it goes wrong even more blame will be put on him. We never make radical changes, ever. Such as switching to 3 at the back or chucking on an additional forward. However I would argue in his defence that Clough has limited options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I'm not sure the tactics were at fault today. We dominated most of the game and had more than enough chances to have put it well out of sight before they scored. The issue today was having poor strikers. Sammon is no striker - OK, he did well in some build up play but got a nose bleed when it looked like he might have to shoot. Martin was appalling. Jamie Ward was wasteful and Michael Jacobs has decided to model his attacking play on Tom Daley. If we are to progress we need someone who can be relied upon to score goals regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawsonRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Doyle and Bennett on the bench who are both hungry for game time..Bennett looked gutted when Clough called him back on to sit down..Surly with some energy up front would have helped us instead of Martin who looked uninterested today Why give Doyle a contract then not make an effort to play him when you need a Goal.. Tactically woeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Why is "going to be a champions league player" Mason Bennett, not used? Did our strikers look like scoring? No. Why not change anything? I'm asking a genuine question. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Ipswich's subs won cock all. The 2 big lads who came on could hardly kick a ball between them! They were brought on to hold out the game, for the point they planned for. One lucky break doesn't mean his subs won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Why is "going to be a champions league player" Mason Bennett, not used? Did our strikers look like scoring? No. Why not change anything? I'm asking a genuine question. Why not? To be fair our strikers looked like scoring today. I would argue Ward nearly scored from 12 yards. Sammon hit the post. Martin scored an onside goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Also who cares we conceded in the last minute!! Win or nothing should have been the case in that game. 1 point means nothing we needed to win to get near the playoff pack and a loss we are safe from relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Ipswich's subs won cock all. The 2 big lads who came on could hardly kick a ball between them! They were brought on to hold out the game, for the point they planned for. One lucky break doesn't mean his subs won the game. No, but his substitutions changed things, and gave derby an extra thing to think about. Mason Bennetts pace, against a tired defence, would have given them an extra problem. We didn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 And going back to my original post, has anyone, in 4 years, seen Clough make a tactical substitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 And going back to my original post, has anyone, in 4 years, seen Clough make a tactical substitution? he probably has at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 And going back to my original post, has anyone, in 4 years, seen Clough make a tactical substitution? If by 'tactical' you mean a defensive substitution whereby Bucko is thrown on with 5 mins to go to shore up a point/victory then yes, loads of times. If you mean a positive change to attempt to win a game then I might need a bit longer to ponder that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Cue happy clappers... Is this really helpful for a debate, to immediately open batting for giving those who will disagree with your point an unfavourable name and to place them all in that same group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Who would have guessed Troy would return after the next loss. You must have been elated when that goal went in eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 You can't fault the tactics if you're dominating, creating decent chances and generally have a grip on the game.. I haven't seen the game but it sounds like Derby created a few chances, and should have scored at least one goal before they did.. That's not Clough's fault.. That's simply the strikers being off form.. If we were creating very little then Clough should have changed it to give the team more width, or go through the middle, whatever the scenario.. But I got the impression that what we were doing was fine and all that was missing was a clinical head infront of goal.. On a side note, we've had some right clowns infront of goal over the past few years.. Out of everywhere on the pitch, uptop is probably the only position NC hasn't improved since walking through the door.. Strange that given that he was a striker back in his playing days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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