networker1884 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I think it was the constant demonstrations that forced their hand. Owners,sometimes unfortunately,even if the subject of demos themselves,tend not to sack themselves when there's another sacrificial lamb at hand. Dropping attendances are what finally saw Blackburn move Steve Kean along. Fans voted with their feet and the drop in revenue forced Venkys hand. Obviously the owners have gone on to make a right dogs dinner of their season. If (and obviously thats a big 'if' right now) Clough were to be moved on partially as a result of stagnating attendances, I would hope the next appointment gets a similar amount of time to shape his team. I'm pro stability, but I'd like it to eventually lead to pushing on up the league - something Nigel's tenure of stability is sadly lacking right now. Are we forgetting the tiny factor of relegation? I'm guessing that had something to do with Keanes departure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Are we forgetting the tiny factor of relegation? I'm guessing that had something to do with Keanes departure... Wasn't relegation well and truly on the cards well before the season end? You would have thought they'd have made the change (like Reading) a lot sooner.Just seemed to me they wanted to keep him (for whatever reason) as long as they could before fan pressure finally told. Also,he didn't go till late September-if relegation in itself had been the issue,he'd surely have been sacked when relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Wasn't relegation well and truly on the cards well before the season end? You would have thought they'd have made the change (like Reading) a lot sooner.Just seemed to me they wanted to keep him (for whatever reason) as long as they could before fan pressure finally told. Also,he didn't go till late September-if relegation in itself had been the issue,he'd surely have been sacked when relegated. Right, so he got sacked because of fan pressure...nothing to do with relegation, is that what you're saying? Because all I'm saying is it's a contributing factor...and certainly a bigger one than attendances and protests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Right, so he got sacked because of fan pressure...nothing to do with relegation, is that what you're saying? Because all I'm saying is it's a contributing factor...and certainly a bigger one than attendances and protests! I'm not saying relegation didn't play a part,but I don't see it as a bigger factor than the other 2.After all,he survived relegation and they had sufficient confidence in him to allow him to buy several players,including the hyper expensive Rhodes.You might suggest he was removed following a poor run of results,but in reality he won 4 of the first 6 league games and only lost in the 7th-Boro (home).By my reckoning that's an average of 2 points/game,automatic promotion form if continued.Significantly,the home reverse cranked up the demos and he was gone just before the next game. He officially resigned,giving the reason as an untenable position.Now I know you could suggest that resignation is often a euphemism for the boot,but given the overall results the latter looks unlikely.It does however pose a lingering question-what came first,the chicken or the egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22242652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Cloughie's very realistic, we've just gotta be extremely patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would be as patient as any man if I thought he was trying to win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 It does look like that sometimes and it's f*cking frustrating but what can we do? Luckily they've all realised that the younguns can't get us up on their own, no matter how good they are but at least they are here. Full steam ahead next season and in Clough we should all trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Clough will take us to premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eranio20 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Blue square premier league aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Clough will take us to premier league Deep down, do you really truly believe that? Honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Deep down, do you really truly believe that? Honestly? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Deep down, do you really truly believe that? Honestly? Next season is critical but given adequate resources I think he could do it. The summer is his biggest yet, if he can get the players he wants and is backed by the board I think we stand a decent chance next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Clough will take us to premier league Premier league in darts did you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Premier league in darts did you mean "http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/74347576" alt="74347576"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Oh I remember that what happened after we got promoted, can someone please remind me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Oh I remember that what happened after we got promoted, can someone please remind me....... "http://ngoisao.net/Files/Subject/3b/9c/3f/2e/PJ" alt="PJ"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Gratuitous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22242652 Full Clough interview from LKO. (Knabby Crackers - fair warning - its with the ruptured corncrake :wacko: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Blue square premier league aye I'd like to tell you exactly what I thought about that post but you'd only report me again. That's what people who dish it out and can't take it do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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