Day Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Surely,if lack of ambition is their reason for not going,then price has little do to with it? Is it not a case of some fans don't feel the price is worthy of the ambition the owners are showing? That's the way I've been reading some comments (not just on here), it's almost like some feel ripped off because we haven't signed a Billy Sharp when neither have 22 other clubs in this league. Our ST prices are the going rate for a club in our position, if you support Derby County, have £300 and Saturdays spare then surely it's a no brainer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Also when people say no wonder attendances are down with the lack of ambition, do you not think it could be down to job losses across the country over the last couple of years? even with a Billy Sharp signing you simply cannot afford £300 ST on benefits with a family to feed. Oh but I've been talking to my mates down the pub and they ain't going because we didn't sign Le Fondre when we could blah blah, you cannot say that is the case for every other Derby fan that hasn't been going lately. All this "lack of ambition" gets on my moobs, I hope that as come across in my posts. I'll be in the poo thread if anybody wants me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Also when people say no wonder attendances are down with the lack of ambition, do you not think it could be down to job losses across the country over the last couple of years? even with a Billy Sharp signing you simply cannot afford £300 ST on benefits with a family to feed. Oh but I've been talking to my mates down the pub and they ain't going because we didn't sign Le Fondre when we could blah blah, you cannot say that is the case for every other Derby fan that hasn't been going lately. All this "lack of ambition" gets on my moobs, I hope that as come across in my posts. I'll be in the poo thread if anybody wants me. Not wanting to go over old ground but we are around about down to the loyal hard core support now. The rest will only start to come back if we get promotion I know alot of people who went to wembly watched us go up. Told me we're getting a ST next year and they did. They don't have one now but are in a better financial position than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Not wanting to go over old ground but we are around about down to the loyal hard core support now. The rest will only start to come back if we get promotion I know alot of people who went to wembly watched us go up. Told me we're getting a ST next year and they did. They don't have one now but are in a better financial position than me. We can only guess but claiming it's all to do with ambition really gets to me, true it will account for some but not everyone as some like to claim. Job losses Hours of work changed to cover job losses Pay cut Relocation New family Ill health/death Lack of ambition Nigel Clough's tactics Championship football Grew out of love with football Don't forget away fans also add to attendances, some places have been hit harder than others and simply can't afford to travel. The list goes on and it's impossible to find the majority reason without polling every Derby fan that's been to Pride Park. Again at the end of the season it will be worth looking at attendances across the leagues and see how many are up and down on last season with league positions. Can't do it now as some clubs will have bigger home games to come, the stats are pointless until May. I know just the person who can do us a lovely graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The Cat E's are south stand - they are cheap because if the away team wants more than 2,000 tickets STH sitting in the south stand will then be relocated to the SW corner. That actually seems fair enough to me - you're getting a discount, but know you'll have the inconvenience of having to shift. Transparent and fair imo. has there been a new stadium map released? Cat E at the moment is SW upper cant see why change that - especially as the free move would be to same category seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We can only guess but claiming it's all to do with ambition really gets to me, true it will account for some but not everyone as some like to claim. Job losses Hours of work changed to cover job losses Pay cut Relocation New family Ill health/death Lack of ambition Nigel Clough's tactics Championship football Grew out of love with football Don't forget away fans also add to attendances, some places have been hit harder than others and simply can't afford to travel. The list goes on and it's impossible to find the majority reason without polling every Derby fan that's been to Pride Park. Again at the end of the season it will be worth looking at attendances across the leagues and see how many are up and down on last season with league positions. Can't do it now as some clubs will have bigger home games to come, the stats are pointless until May. I know just the person who can do us a lovely graph. I bet at least 6000 would come out of the woodwork if we got promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 If that is the case I think they are well over priced and have done for years. I think they ought to reduce the prices by at least 50%. 'senior service' should be a lot less (sorry,eddie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ST price is do-able for us. It's the away matches that are the stingers, really expensive days. We do a couple every season and that's it. This season it's Blackpool I'm looking forward to, booked Travel Lodge last year when it was cheaper, and make a weekend out if it with the kids. That way suits us better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ST price is do-able for us. It's the away matches that are the stingers, really expensive days. We do a couple every season and that's it. This season it's Blackpool I'm looking forward to, booked Travel Lodge last year when it was cheaper, and make a weekend out if it with the kids. That way suits us better. Me too with two kids it gets expensive away from home. I only go to a few. Going next week to sheffield cause it's nearly as close a PP for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Me too with two kids it gets expensive away from home. I only go to a few. Going next week to sheffield cause it's nearly as close a PP for me. We're going next week too. Kill 2 birds with one stone and go and see family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I think we have had cheap tickets for a long time and this is a contributory factor to our loss making situation. Unfortunately I think they could not have chose a much worse time to try and hit people with price increases These are 'stealth' increases, slid in alongside the 'carrot' of Category E tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We're going next week too. Kill 2 birds with one stone and go and see family kill two birds? I don't think your allowd to kill owls 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 In my case it is purely that they have changed the rules without informing me. For as long as I can remember, you qualified for a senior ticket when you turned 60. Now you don't. It doesn't just affect those like me who reach that age before next season - it will affect everyone whose 60th birthday is next year, the year after, 10, 20, 30 years in the future. When their turn comes, they will not get the reduction either for five years - or probably longer. Perhaps I'm making a fuss over nothing in some people's eyes, but since Pride Park opened, everyone who reached 60 started to qualify as a senior from that point. In future, they don't. They have also put themselves in the ludicrous situation where a woman can reach her official pension age and in Derby County's eyes, they still won't qualify. When I went into the ticket office the other week to pick up cup tickets, I was asked my age. I said '59' and the guy behind the desk said 'bad luck - but you'll get them cheaper next year'. It seems that two weeks ago, even their own staff didn't know about the change. If the club had contacted me first, then perhaps I might feel differently. But they didn't. Well, phuck 'em. I'll have more time for brewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 kill two birds? I don't think your allowd to kill owls 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> I know a couple of owls, I wouldn't have a problem stoning them I tell ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 In my case it is purely that they have changed the rules without informing me. For as long as I can remember, you qualified for a senior ticket when you turned 60. Now you don't. It doesn't just affect those like me who reach that age before next season - it will affect everyone whose 60th birthday is next year, the year after, 10, 20, 30 years in the future. When their turn comes, they will not get the reduction either for five years - or probably longer. Perhaps I'm making a fuss over nothing in some people's eyes, but since Pride Park opened, everyone who reached 60 started to qualify as a senior from that point. In future, they don't. They have also put themselves in the ludicrous situation where a woman can reach her official pension age and in Derby County's eyes, they still won't qualify. When I went into the ticket office the other week to pick up cup tickets, I was asked my age. I said '59' and the guy behind the desk said 'bad luck - but you'll get them cheaper next year'. It seems that two weeks ago, even their own staff didn't know about the change. If the club had contacted me first, then perhaps I might feel differently. But they didn't. Well, phuck 'em. I'll have more time for brewing. I bet by the time i qualify for a senior season ticket the age will be 80 and your grandmother can get in free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I bet by the time i qualify for a senior season ticket the age will be 80 and your grandmother can get in free. Only if accompanied by both of her parents though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftesburystreet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I bet by the time i qualify for a senior season ticket the age will be 80 and your grandmother can get in free. Lionel Pickering brought in senior prices at age 55 if you sat in certain areas. Think it only lasted two or three seasons though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 They are increasing prices in the hardest hit demographics, but also the smallest proportion of places to reduce the impact of non renewals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftesburystreet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Think the fact that people 61 - 65 will still get the discount will annoy people. For instance someone born on 5/09/52 will pay £750 less over the five seasons than someone born a day later in category b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 some old gits on here .. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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