gcdcfc28 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah cause the Irish league is proper full of quality ain't it mate and the spl is the equlient of league one. How how many of those premiership appearances you listed did sammon come on as a sub? 35 games and 1 goal, Great ratio. Jones learning his trade from fergie, scholes, Keane compared to sammon being rejected by Derry, having A good season in a poor Scottish league, playing half a dozen games with thee amazing Franco di santo and now being worth 1.2m. And who of the two players is currently still playing their trade in the premiership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah cause the Irish league is proper full of quality ain't it mate and the spl is the equlient of league one. How how many of those premiership appearances you listed did sammon come on as a sub? 35 games and 1 goal, Great ratio. Jones learning his trade from fergie, scholes, Keane compared to sammon being rejected by Derry, having A good season in a poor Scottish league, playing half a dozen games with thee amazing Franco di santo and now being worth 1.2m. jones playing with scholes and keane will have nothing to do with what we paid for him. the quality of a league doesn't necessarily mean all players in that league are crap. there is more to sammon's play than goals he brings other players into the game. he may score more goals by the end of the year and justify his price tag. why are you so hell bent are saying sammon is a waste of money? we won't know until he leaves and for all we know he could score us the goal to win us promotion. it's already been said clough has made good and bad signings but no signing is an awful signing for example chelsea's signing of shevchenko, eric djemba-djemba robert earnshaw kenny miller or ravenelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Croft - Terrible, just terrible Moxey - Did a job, even played as a striker once, ultimately left for more than he cost us Pringle - A development squad player, where's the list of failed youth players? Hendrie - Came as a part exchange for Stewart, poor signing though Martin - Didn't fit, but cheap Doyle - Another youth player, how deep does the rabbit hole go? Bavies - Was an assist machine early last season, didn't cost all that much, but is worth a solid impact here and there Porter - Injuries ruined him, he wasn't a poor signing Maguire - Didn't fit in, got most of his fee back, still poor though Russell Anderson - Did his job and ultimately did what he needed, him being included in lists of poor signings only shows how few examples they really are So basically: Croft Hendrie Martin Maguire From 8 transfer windows... ...if offered that when Nigel arrived I would have taken it on sight and run off laughing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So you believe the 400,000 fee we paid Aberedeen was well warranted? And 400k on porter only for him to be released two years later? That's money well spent. Personally think 375k for Ben Davies was ridiculous. He hasn't set the world alight, he was fast approaching 30 at the time and he was past his best. Why not save the money for a rainy day? Maguire and porter terrible signings, nobody can seriously argue against that. Porter scored a fair amount for Motherwell, but there was plenty of players doing the business in league one who'd be worth a pun; lambert at the time was there for the taking! That's 800k and that's without Martin, Croft, Hendrie, Deeney, Doyle... Never said he did bad in the market, but nowhere near as great as some are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah cause the Irish league is proper full of quality ain't it mate and the spl is the equlient of league one. How how many of those premiership appearances you listed did sammon come on as a sub? 35 games and 1 goal, Great ratio. Jones learning his trade from fergie, scholes, Keane compared to sammon being rejected by Derry, having A good season in a poor Scottish league, playing half a dozen games with thee amazing Franco di santo and now being worth 1.2m. And who of the two players is currently still playing their trade in the premiership? Yeah cause the Irish league is proper full of quality ain't it mate and the spl is the equlient of league one. How how many of those premiership appearances you listed did sammon come on as a sub? 35 games and 1 goal, Great ratio. Jones learning his trade from fergie, scholes, Keane compared to sammon being rejected by Derry, having A good season in a poor Scottish league, playing half a dozen games with thee amazing Franco di santo and now being worth 1.2m. And who of the two players is currently still playing their trade in the premiership? Franco Di Santo - Learned his trade (by your logic) from Drogba, Shevchenko and Anelka - cost Wigan £2 mil Also, how is the league they come from any indication of their quality? Players come form all sorts of backgrounds. Drogba spent much of his youth career in the French non-league, yet scored 100 Premier League goals. Henry also started his career in the French non leagues, whilst Teddy Sheringham started his career in our own (from my knowledge). Please, be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So you believe the 400,000 fee we paid Aberedeen was well warranted? And 400k on porter only for him to be released two years later? That's money well spent. Personally think 375k for Ben Davies was ridiculous. He hasn't set the world alight, he was fast approaching 30 at the time and he was past his best. Why not save the money for a rainy day? Maguire and porter terrible signings, nobody can seriously argue against that. Porter scored a fair amount for Motherwell, but there was plenty of players doing the business in league one who'd be worth a pun; lambert at the time was there for the taking! That's 800k and that's without Martin, Croft, Hendrie, Deeney, Doyle... Never said he did bad in the market, but nowhere near as great as some are saying. Talented young footballer who was scoring? Why not? Ultimately we got most of that back from the Wendies, who aren't playing him either from what I can see. He may have an attitude problem which is holding him back, which would be unfortunate as he seems to have some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 If it was a general question, what was the answer, was I right or wrong? You seem to think I only ask questions when I already know the answer. That would be quite dull. Still waiting for you to prove/evaluate any of your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 [snip]Still waiting for you to prove/evaluate any of your suggestions. Don't kid yourself, that's never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Jake Buxton - average defender, only raved about cause of the goal vs florist Shaun Barker - injured, but we still was in a relegation battle with him in the side. John Brayford - good signing Gareth Roberts - retiring soon, theres much better out there than a 34 yr old Jamie Ward - good player...when fit Theo Robinson - the same theo 75% of supporters slate after each game? Jason Shackell - nothing specal, still leaked goals in for fun in defence Frank Fielding - currently sat on the bench playing second fiddle to a league two signing Craig Bryson - good signing Michael Jacobs - good signing Paul Coutts - average, a 17 year old kid is showing him up Richard Keogh - good signing Connor Sammon - for the fee paid, you could get the equivalent of three le fondres.... And they're the best signing? Fook me, whats the worse?! I'm not sure what the smallest fraction in the world is, but that's how full your glass is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I'm not sure what the smallest fraction in the world is, but that's how full your glass is. If you define k as a real number and have it approaching zero you can define the fraction 1/k to be the smallest real number in standard mathematics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 If you define k as a real number and have it approaching zero you can define the fraction 1/k to be the smallest real number in standard mathematics. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's all this consistent crap? I said clough has done average in the market, I've shown we loss a fair amount with the signings of maguire, Martin and porter. How am I being inconsistent with my argument? Your too pro dcfc mate, like most on here. Training with drogba? Yeah one of the worlds best, clearly di santo didn't learn a great deal because he's garbage. All I'm saying is sammon doesn't warrant a fee of 1.2 million soley for a few months at Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I'm pretty sure Sammon cost £600k rising to £1.2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's all this consistent crap? I said clough has done average in the market, I've shown we loss a fair amount with the signings of maguire, Martin and porter. How am I being inconsistent with my argument? Your too pro dcfc mate, like most on here. Training with drogba? Yeah one of the worlds best, clearly di santo didn't learn a great deal because he's garbage. All I'm saying is sammon doesn't warrant a fee of 1.2 million soley for a few months at Wigan. how can you support your team too much? what kind of fan are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 What's all this consistent crap? I said clough has done average in the market, I've shown we loss a fair amount with the signings of maguire, Martin and porter. How am I being inconsistent with my argument? Your too pro dcfc mate, like most on here. Training with drogba? Yeah one of the worlds best, clearly di santo didn't learn a great deal because he's garbage. All I'm saying is sammon doesn't warrant a fee of 1.2 million soley for a few months at Wigan. ...so wait, Jones, who's now clining onto a place at Wigan clearly learned from the best, but Di Santo, who signed for far more than Jones is clearly rubbish. Please, please, read your posts, you'll see the inconsistencies in the logic. Sammon was at Wigan for more than "a few months" by the way. You've also shown literally nothing. Please quote where you showed: - "we loss a fair amount with the signings of maguire" - "Martin" Then explain why Porter was the club's fault. I'm all ears (well, eyes, as I'll be reading your post). I'm pretty sure Sammon cost £600k rising to £1.2m Not to be a *****, but... ...source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 ...so wait, Jones, who's now clining onto a place at Wigan clearly learned from the best, but Di Santo, who signed for far more than Jones is clearly rubbish. Please, please, read your posts, you'll see the inconsistencies in the logic. Sammon was at Wigan for more than "a few months" by the way. You've also shown literally nothing. Please quote where you showed: - "we loss a fair amount with the signings of maguire" - "Martin" Then explain why Porter was the club's fault. I'm all ears (well, eyes, as I'll be reading your post). Not to be a *****, but... ...source? HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Not to be a *****, but... ...source? http://beliscity.com/images/HP%20SAUCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 how can you support your team too much? what kind of fan are you? Wow, I didn't get what he meant there: "Your too pro dcfc mate" It makes sense in retrospect, but it was complete gibberish the first time I saw it. Firstly, "your" should be "you're", as it is meant to be "you are", not the second person possessive. Secondly, pro can have many meanings and is ambiguous. I guess it makes sense though... Without him showing how people are "too pro" though, the statement has literally no meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 http://beliscity.com/images/HP%20SAUCE Too slow. The first yard is in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Too slow. The first yard is in your head. i was merely backing your point wit a visual aid 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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