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Corey Blackett-Taylor - Stats and titles won - 23/24
Current season statistics (2023/2024). 78% Impacting goals 9 Goals. 50% Impacting assists 6 Assists. 30 Played matches 2460 Minutes played.
Could he be our striker if coĺlins needs a rest.
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I'm happy with having 4 players on the leader board for assists.
Could we expect better performances from certain players if warne didn't always play the same tactics.
As i said earlier Adams is not a good replacement for Bird but if the clubs not willing to pay proper transfer fees, we can see the result of that.
I thought that Adams was signed to provide cover for Bird.
I thought that Blackett-Taylor was signed as a striker to provide cover for Collins.
I wonder if we will see a repeat of last year where as Warne admits, our players were just to tired to get the results at the end of the season. Only time will tell
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Ebou Adams was brought in to cover Bird position wearing our team when we are often losing the midfielder battle.
The teams become weaker.
Its not as if Ebou Adams was even a primary pick, hes come on loan.
How many loan players have worked out for us in recent years.
Adams was signed as the club knew Bird was being sold on.
Adams was signed not to improve the squad but for cover.
Adams club moved him on because he wasn't getting game time. He was a failure at the African nations club, checked his stats for that.
We are hoping the club's trying for promotion.
We know we are not looking great against weaker teams, tactically we look poor.
I think teams around us have strengthend.
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2 minutes ago, KBB said:
I think the problem we have with our young players and "stars" is that we hold on to them for too long and sell them on their downward price value. Some say it shows ambition to hold on to your best players. It does, however, and hindsight is a wonderful thing, selling players and reinvesting in a quality replacement and s young up and coming player has to be our business policy.
Thinking back to Hulse, Martin and thinking about Bird, Cashin, Sibley we will never receive a value our fans think is acceptable for them to leave. Sometimes you do have to sell assets at a good value, suck it up and move forward.
Sibley will never be sold for anywhere near the rumour of what wolves were prepared to pay before and during his breakthrough.
Fans see a lack of ambition in selling young players, however if we got anything around 3mill for Bird, we could potentially go and get moxon and branagan and bring through Robinson. For me, this would not be lacking ambition, it is rebuilding a midfield by "sacrificing" a good player to aid this process.
I don't want cashin or Bird to leave and rate them both highly but if we got between 5 and 7 mill for them combined I would sell them both and rebuild. These are the times the club is living in. We have to embrace this as a fan base.
When the club is stable and sustainable, then we demand top dollar for the next generation.
Young players impressing in the first team is where the value is. It is risky as they can sink or swim, but if Brown was up top for us and having the season Collins is and on a long term contract we would be talking 10mill for him.
Your assuming it would be reinvested back into rebuilding the squad
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If we were odds on for auto promotion I'd be happier
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Our teams highly defensive 4-1-4-1 system is both a strength and a potential weakness, as it can limit offensive transitions
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1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:
Oh and for anyone saying my expectations should be more realistic, Warne has said a few times that they want to be, and are aiming to be in the top two. Should his expectations be more realistic as well then?
Assuming we are promoted how good is our current geriatric army expected to be at the championship level.
Why is smith not in Sheffield Wednesdays plans, probably because he's the wrong side of 30 and not of the quality needed at that level like much of our current squad. Yet smith is supposedly a prime target for us and is the same age as the most of the other strikers we have.
Before they even joined us their record read Injury prone. They have very little resale value.
Our salary budget is high because we are paying their championship level wages.
last season those older players ran out of steam towards the end of the season.
In my opinion, We lack a team capable of successfully competing at the championship level.
Should we not have looked for younger talent from the lower leagues that might have a resale value in the future and perhaps wouldn't have us on such high wages.
Has warme changed from his Rotherham teams, did he promote similar teams to ours in the past, only to find they couldn't succeed in the Championship once promoted?
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6 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:
Teams playing football under Jim Smith, George Burley, Steve McLaren were all good to watch.
The simple fact is that we are in the third tier and making hard work of it. I think our points total is higher than our performances have warranted. Warne might be the man to get us out of L1 (although that remains to be seen) but he is quite clearly not the man to take us any further than that.
A man as smart as Clowes must be able to see it. I refuse to believe he has a Paul Warne shaped blind spot.
I agree but wonder if a proper analysis of warne can be done if it the players he wants to bring in the club can't afford.
He's dependent on what he's allowed to bring in based on budget. If your budgets restricted how can he strengthen the team in the way he might like.
I do think he's narrow minded on tactics. That might work in League one, and the current team might do OK in league but if we reach the championship.
He got Rotherham promoted to the championship, 3 times but he was also the manager when they were demoted twice from the championship.
It might be possible to argue that Rotherham didn't have the strongest team and also didn't spend enough to strengthen when in the Championship.
Would derby be in a position to strengthen enough once in the Championship or will we do a Rotherham, a promotion followed by a demotion.
Many of the teams promoted via the play offs from league one were demoted very quickly.
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Is there any interest in us signing Tom McIntyre from Reading.
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After the last couple of games it seems obvious we are not where we want to be yet as a team.
We still need further reinforcements.
Our away record on defence isn't something to boast about.
We are still not as good as the best teams in the division.
I'm not convinced we will be automatically promoted this season, the journey continues.
I'm concerned we might be loss making in this division, we are a business and that means we need the Championship to get more money.
Here's an article about promotion from league one to the championship ...
what is promotion from league 1 to the championship worth ...
"Promotion from League 1 to the Championship is worth a significant increase in revenue. League One teams receive a basic award of £732,000 and a solidarity payment of £675,000, totaling £1,407,000. In contrast, Championship clubs receive a basic £2.3 million plus a £4.5 million solidarity payment, totaling £6.7 million, nearly five times as much as a League One club[2]. Estimates suggest that the total revenue increase for promotion from League One to the Championship is around £8 million, linked to the Premier League TV deal[3]. Winning the Championship play-off final and earning promotion to the Premier League is understood to be worth hundreds of millions of pounds, as it provides access to the significant broadcast revenue and other financial benefits of the top division[5].
Citations:
[1] EFL League One play-offs - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_League_One_play-offs
[2] How much Championship promotion is worth to League One teams https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/league-one-promotion-championship-worth-1396662
[3] How much SAFC will gain following promotion to the Championship and what it could cost to be competitive https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/how-much-sunderland-will-gain-following-promotion-to-the-championship-and-what-it-could-cost-to-be-competitive-3705330
[4] How much is winning the League One play-off final worth to Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday? https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/how-much-is-winning-the-league-one-play-off-final-worth-to-barnsley-and-sheffield-wednesday-4159324
[5] Championship play-off final: How much is winning Premier League promotion decider worth? | Goal.com UK https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/championship-play-off-final-how-much-premier-league-promotion-decider-worth/17nz5miq9ytix1wkm1w5q2kozdBy Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/c53f3622-6cab-435f-bad0-f06f40354df7?s=m"
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/championship-playoff-final-how-much-worth-b2346962.html
Ahead of the 2020 Championship play-off final, Deloitte reported that the victorious club could earn anywhere between £135m and £265m, depending on whether or not they could avoid immediate relegation from the Premier League.
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Has the club revealed its transfer funds too soon.
It entered the bidding for Corey Blackett-Taylor but the £250k bid was rejected.
Did that send a signal to other clubs, they have a small transfer budget but its not worth us negotiating quality players release to them since the bid wasn't that high.
The pw seems to want us to focus on the loan extension for john-jules who has played 10 games for us and only scored 1 goal.
Are we now looking at free agents again who seem to be the wrong side of 30 and with little sell on value.
Pw has talked about older players running out of steam by the end of the season.
If collins got injured, we don't look like a side that would do well, given the injuries to the older players we currently have.
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I remember watching Brian clough when he was our manager.
Made us start to believe we could succeed.
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6 hours ago, S8TY said:
I think the reason some get a bit disappointed when the window is open is the same reason I do
We don’t want to spend silly money and go against financial restraints blahdy blah but it’s the fact that PW explains how difficult it is to get anyone and all the stars have to line up and the wind has to be blowing in the right direction etc etc when others seem to just get on with it and get players in eg Charlton signing Coventry
it seems to follow a similar path each time saying we are near players have been shown round blah blah and we all think this is Derby and we should be able to sign a couple of half decent first team players for league 1 and then in the last few days PW says we tried but everything can just change and it’s so difficult to get the right players in yet also say it’s not difficult to get players to play for a club like ours ??
Then hey presto …last knockings of the window cue the Springett and White signings ….lol ….we’ve had all season to identify the players that would make a difference yet something stops it from happening and I don’t think it’s all about finances
I think pw is concerned about a repeat of the end of last season, jaded players and not enough cover.
He's concerned that without strengthening the squad it will not be strong enough to get promotion this season.
He recognises that the team needs at least 3 new players but is hoping to get at least 2 in.
He sees the obvious like needing a new striker.
That aside I don't see him as tactically astute. He doesn't seem to make enough formation changes when needed.
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58 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:
I've said similar already today in one of the transfer threads, but sites like this just seem to slap our name on an article because they know it will drive engagement. It's usually based on a tweet or half arsed unnamed 'source'. We might end up signing one or two of the players we get linked with, but only because we are currently being linked with bloody everyone.
Not having a go at you @Oldben, just noticing a pattern in this window and the way it gets covered.
Looks like the kind of player I'd like us to sign ...
"The Belfast-born ace won the Golden Boot in Northern Ireland last season with 30 goals across all competitions.
He picked up a ligament injury during pre-season which forced him to miss the opening 11 games of the campaign, but the 22-year-old has gone on to score 11 goals in just nine starts.
He enhanced his goalscoring reputation after he notched a hat-trick in Cliftonville’s 3-0 win against Coleraine last Friday (5 January) in the Irish Cup.
Hale’s exceptional form for Birmingham’s under-21s, where he scored 28 goals in 23 appearances, earned him a promotion to the under-23s.
However, his Blues contract was terminated by mutual consent in January 2019 before his return to Belfast-based side Crusaders – his first club."
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With the club having one of the highest salary budgets in League one, is it the case that players must be released/loan ended/sold on, before more players can be brought in so that's no breach of financial fair play rules for league one clubs.
We have a lot of players but how many of them are currently worth the salary levels we are paying given that the club has one of the largest, if not the largest salary budgets in League one.
I assume this effects January transfers
January Reinforcements
in Derby County Forum
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https://www.derbycounty.news/transfer-news/derby-county-now-in-race-to-sign-free-agent-striker-after-unexpected-release/