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Not disputing your comments but I’d say a likely reason is age and legs. He sees Bird more mobile, doesn’t mean Hourihane doesn’t join in at times; particularly set plays or when we’re camping in the opposition half. Just generally I suspect Warne wants Bird to develop more into the player Hourihane was. Of course, could be talking utter tosh, but it’s often crossed my mind when the Bird/Hourihane sitting or playing further up around the box comes into discussion.

Yep guess I did🙈, still my comments were valid, given other mentions 😉

The same Morgan Whittaker that took this season’s tally to 13 in the championship today, think it’s half a dozen assists. Players need to be played to their strengths, sometimes they need others around them to compliment their talent. Just wish we didn’t judge youth too quickly, as whilst Cashin is getting plaudits of late, I’d be confident both Bird and Sibley will have good careers ahead of them; with or without us. Neither are the finished product, exactly like Whittaker, who seems to be getting better with age and understanding of his team mates and manager.

Yep and a few around me actually thought Barks was unlucky to be subbed at half time, as he did more than NML because he looked fatigued. No scapegoating, he was just a bit flat battery today.

Ditto almost all of that. Reading back the last few pages most people can see P’boro are a good attacking side; if anything they were a bit wasteful and let us off the hook until the last 10 minutes. We rode our luck though, thought we were going to get something, but just switched off a bit. If anything we should’ve tested their back line with crosses more, we too lacked accuracy on delivery and looked a little shot shy. But I’ve no real complaints, we’ve done well to get 3 points off them and I wouldn’t fancy playing them in any play offs; particularly over 2 legs. Fortunately, the biggest plus is Warne’s post match comments, we’re not looking to sell; though I think there was a big clue recruitment won’t be easy. We do need more pace though. This team is still going to be up there end of the season, today didn’t change that for me.

Agree but I’d say we embarrassed them, after gifting them a start, it almost feels after the game, like we were toying with them. We completely forced them into giving the ball back most of the game; their embarrassment comes from our superiority - we were that good!

Ain’t heard no fat lady singing yet.

Aside from giving the most stonewall penalty, constant fouls and half the team must be hung over, it’s not too bad really 🙄

Warne needs to sit them down at half time and tell a fair few to stop diving in and just play their game. No way should we be 2 down.

Same as the pen though, don’t give the ref, the chance to play to the home crowd by going in when you don’t have to. The crowd and players appealed, as they would, it was an easy “home” decision to give.

Another that wouldn’t have minded seeing Warne depart after some of the earlier performances; although realistically I never believed it would happen anyway. My issue with Warne was aside from P’boro away, we never played free flowing football that we’ve been spoilt with at times with others. The main problem I had, was no obvious plan at times, other than seemingly lump crosses in, nor did he seem to react well to opposition tactical changes. The players just seem to be gelling more though and the football is becoming better, because the players are better than many others in this league. Warne has to get credit for that though, as it’s his team selection and tactics that are enabling it. The recent run seems to have lifted pressure off him, he comes across far better in interviews. I’ll have to live with his quips, it’s obviously his psyche that he can’t but be jokey at times. Vale and Wigan performances in particular though, are well and truly changing my mindset, where we’ve not only looked dominant football wise, but have shown real determination not to concede soft goals. Yesterday I’d have been happy to chant any pro Warne song. I’m back to being a full on happy clapper 🐑

Just curious besides Scanlon, wasn’t there 2 others bought on the cheap? Are they also featuring for United?

Add to that, really hope we can keep Cashin, him and Nelson are rock solid at the back.

I’ve a mate who’s an Hull fan, from what he’s said, Liam has been doing a decent job, tactics not too different than with us, just a far younger team. Their fans have warmed to him, so they should; good young coach.

Cooper was doing the best he could, Nuno, Pep or Klopp would struggle with those goalkeepers, lack of decent strikers; even the defence is meh for Prem standards. This could be funny, the Greek will no doubt spend in January; fingers crossed Luton or Burnley can up their game and form enough.

Sometimes we all just need to say less and be happy 😊 C.O.Y.R’s

Wouldn’t worry Utch, just back, the simple facts of tonight. We scored 1 more goal than Vale ever looked likely to, their keeper was their man of the match (tells you all you really need to know), we’re 6 points of the autos, so I reckon tonight was xtra good myself. Parking reservations about Warne, ignoring Crewe, Rams on a roll and going up.

Yeah and Conway is right, he’s becoming a different player to the one we knew.

About as many as a 4 year contract for him and his staff buys, so get used to it for a good while longer.

Putting aside any debate about him being here, whilst he took Rotherham up 3 times, he took them down from the championship 3 times; being already in the championship I’d say they’ve more than tried that route. Don't think I’d be tempted if I was their owner.

That stat should be rammed home by local media to all concerned with the first team, coaching or players. Blown a second chance as it stands too. Hugely disappointing.

Me neither but looking on the bright side if we go out now, we don’t have to either suffer him scoring against us next round or have even more sentimental torment for those pining for him to be here.

If you noticed Crewe only just above 2-1 to win now. Can get Evens on rams now, would’ve been a good bet to lay off at 14/1 😂

Awhh only just logged on to see this. Stood next to him in the seats of course, at Watford a good few years ago and Charlton, B4 was just always so positive about getting a result. This forum will have a small void without his posts, often passionate, sometimes funny, nearly always so positive. R.I.P B4

So did I, must’ve been when I went in need of liquid relief! 😂