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7 hours ago, David said:

A word associated with adult sites 

The Hugh Hefner’s dead thread must’ve been a nightmare. 

On 06/11/2017 at 13:32, David said:

The p word holds posts for moderation, we don’t mention the p word around here.

Edited and approved.

Have to keep Google happy.

I’m very curious now. I’m trying to think of a p word that google might object to. The only word starting with p in his post was position. What does it rhyme with? Or is it code for some secret moderator stuff? In which case, what’s the secret, I won’t tell anyone. 

5 hours ago, David said:

You say that but I wish they would go for USB-C and be done with it. Guess they can’t licence that though

It would make a lot more sense. USB c on the Mac book, so why not on the iPhone. One charger for everything. 

2 hours ago, Hucknall Ram said:

So set up apple id for each son, then log in on the phone with that new id? 

When you set up the Apple ID, it asks youfor a date of birth. Put in the actual date of birth, don’t try to fib, then it will ask you to set up a child’s account. 

I did the same with my daughter who has an iPad which obviously doesn’t have 3G, just WiFi. 

Its actually quite fascinating seeing what they choose to text to their family. And we’ll facetime her to make sure she wakes up. 

With a child’s account, if she ever tries to buy anything, it sends you a notification to allow it. 

9 hours ago, David said:

Whilst impressive those numbers are, again in the real world they mean very little, not something you would notice sending an email or browsing a forum. If you're into editing videos and exporting them on your phone that's when you will start to notice it.

It's just a funny thing as one criticism of Apple is that you can get a much better spec hardware for less, be it a PC or Phone and thats true, where Apple comes into it's own is the optimised software for it's own devices, they don't need the extra specs in the hardware to out perform those that do.

The whole thing is actually quite boring, and I'm the one that instigates it! ?

It’s like a massive horse power 4x4 with technically better specs than a sleek little sports car, but because it’s carrying round so much more weight in a none aerodynamic body, it still gets skinned at the lights. Specs don’t necessarily tell the whole story. 

2 hours ago, David said:

The 3 bulb starter kit?

Bulbs are like £50 usually each for the colour ones. Cheaper if you get just white bulbs, you can still dim them and everything, just no colour options.

Hmm, £50 for a bulb seems a bit steep. Not sure I can justify that. I’ll probably have to go with @Boycies big stick method for now. 

17 minutes ago, David said:

Philips Hue needs the hub, you can get starter packs with it bundled in. Ethernet cable into the router and Bobs ya uncle 

£129.97 from currys! They can buy that one themselves. 

6 hours ago, Moist One said:

you could say, "where are the numbers?" on ios!

Try iOS 11. 

10 hours ago, David said:

I do, I have Philips Hue bulbs setup around the house which I can either control using Siri or in iOS 10 swipe up and across, or iOS 11 swipe up and press the home icon.

Probably a bunch of stuff people didn't know about.

Can you get those light bulbs without having to have some sort of hub as wel? I looked into them but thought you needed the nest thermostat or something similar to use them. I really wanted to get some for my parents. Or did I get the wrong end of the stick?

1 hour ago, Moist One said:

what's to stop a mugger/robber knocking the owner out and then using the face to open the phone before legging it?

It's not immune to an evil twin though. 

1 hour ago, Moist One said:

what's to stop a mugger/robber knocking the owner out and then using the face to open the phone before legging it?

Also, you can just close your eyes. It needs the owners attention and eye contact to work. 

That already makes it more secure than finger prints. What would stop them cutting your finger off?

they even tested it with state of the art mission impossible / arya stark type masks. 

3 hours ago, Wolfie said:

This just looks to me like Apple again trying to solve problems that don't exist just to fulfil their shareholder demands of product launches regardless of progress and increased market value.

Who is going to upgrade to an iPhone 8, when it gets superceded on the very day of it's launch - and isn't even that much cheaper?

Plus the iPhone X no longer looks distinctively "Apple" either.

It's all about the build quality though, innit. 

Get the x in the same room as a Samsung and I bet you'll see a difference. 

I love the fact that they've created face recognition technology that wouldn't look out of place at the NSA, through what looks like some genuinely above and beyond r&d, simply because they want to get rid of the home button, and therefore need a replacement for the Touch ID, and the best they can think to do with it is emojis.

there must be something more world changing than emojis that you could do with that sort of processing power. 

6 billion processes a second. That's unfathomable. 

51 minutes ago, scarboroughwa said:

Other than they're better?

That is an opinion. And a wrong one. 

This is fun. It's like arguing with Forest fans. 

1 hour ago, ketteringram said:

So....... Because I don't want to 'customise', I shouldn't have an android phone. Righty O. 

 

Yes, I'm glad you're on my wavelength. I can see no other reason to want an android phone. 

1 minute ago, Joe. said:

Can your iPhone have two apps open on the same screen yet?

Yes. Try again. 

6 hours ago, ketteringram said:

Is that a serious question?? 

Yes. The biggest argument against iOS is that you can't customise it. Those that use argue, that's fine by me, why would I want to much about with something that is damn near perfect. But if customisation is your bag, then android is for you. 

If you're not going to customise android. What does it actually have over iOS?

23 minutes ago, ketteringram said:

I've never changed the theme or font! 

So why have an android? I thought it was all about customisation?

6 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:

@David Fair enough and I understand that. I could never leave the beauty and utter simplicity of my touchscreen Windows laptop for the bizarre and terrible touchstrip at the back of the keyboard of the MacBook Pro. But each to their own.

I have a friend who thinks my MacBook Pro is crap cos it doesn't have a touch screen, and can't understand why it doesn't. 

At my work the two girls their both have touch screen lenovos, and both have asked me to turn the touch screen off, cos it's nothing but trouble.

i asked in the Apple shop why Apple would never do a touch screen  they are, after all, the innovators of the modern touch experience, seems like it would be something they're all over. But it's just not natural. You don't poke and prod your tv screen (unless you're a two year old with sticky fingers). And any lap top doesn't have the support behind the screen, so it ends up flapping and wobbling about when you're prodding away at it.

A very good touch pad is so much better. Means your hands never have to leave the keyboard area.

ill admit though, I'm still getting used to the touch bar, and there's been occasions where I've pressed send on an email before I'm ready. But I'm getting there, there's quite a few things I use it for now.

i find that most people who dislike Apple have never actually used it. They are too set in the windows / android mindset, and think the transition would be too difficult. That was me about 7 years ago. I refused to buy my wife an iPod because wouldn't touch Apple with a barge pole. As soon as I took the plunge and made the change, though, I would absolutely never go back.

we have done Windows pcs in my office. Downloading update 34 of 5906 is still very much a thing. Delayed the opening time of my clinic by about half an hour the other day. There's two or three bits of third party software that open automatically that I don't understand what they are, or what they do, but they give me error messages. Just have to cancel them. No idea what they add to the experience. And that was fresh out of the box.

and paying s subscriptions for for office 365. What's that all about? People say Apple is expensive, but you get their office suite for free, and annual updates of all the software for free, and the kit lasts longer, with far higher build quality. So actually, after you've owned it for 5 years, and it's still going strong, it's starts to become pretty good value.

The girls in the office are looking to replace their lenovos after 1.5 years, because the 3rd party software has just clogged them up so much. There emails never work, their internet never works. Everything just works on mine  open the lid, and off I go.

5 hours ago, David said:

Slightly off topic. Really liking the new control centre, wasn't a huge fan of iOS 10 swipe up then across.

Even customisable which is blatant Android copying 

With the one on the right though, doesn't that just eventually become another home screen? I do get it, but it seems like one step away to 'access to all your favourite apps'. We'll all my favourite apps are on the home screen, so what's the point. 

Apple have been really bad widgets like android. But they're getting there with this, as well as the widgets you can have in the notification bit (swipe down and right). 

Im not too sure about that. Trying to copy android a bit too much, and loosing a bit of its appleness. There's almost too much going on now. Swipe right from the home screen and I get a bunch of stuff, swipe down and I get a bunch more, swipe right again, and there's yet more, swipe up and there's all these thins, and that's before I've swiped left to reveal another two pages of apps. 

3 hours ago, LesterRam said:

you taking the piss?

No, technology is moving forward at an exponential rate. The amount of money that companies like google and Apple are making are allowing them to invest in r&d projects that would otherwise seem frivolous. 

Do you think google would've invested in photographing every street in the world, and then giving it away for free, if they weren't making silly money elsewhere. If not for that sort of investment, we'd all still be deciding between multiway, street map, or the rac route finder. 

Its like the tv licence. We moan about it, but people pay for it and it funds all sorts of useful things that the BBC do. We might not benefit from all of them, but when someone in Uzbekistan checks the march report on the BBC website, our licence pounds have paid for that.

The fact you have a Samsung edge 8 or whatever, stems from some geek buying an Apple Lisa back in the day, Apple getting a shitload of money, and then being able to invest in projects like iPod, and eventually iPhone, which every other company could then take that idea and run with it. Maybe the Samsung phone is better now, but the modern smartphone owes everything to those original Mac users.

19 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Both my iPhone 6s's went in for battery replacements.

But I am an unlucky guy.

That's cos David had knackered the battery before he sold them to you. 

On the ethical side of things, and the massive mark up. 

This is what gives Apple more money than god. But it is also what has been able to fuel the massive technological advancements we've seen in recent times. 

I run a business. If I said Timmy business partner, let's invest in a new set of curtains, he's like 'how does that make us more money.' It's only a small business, every penny counts. I keep dreaming of the day when we're making so much profit I can just go, 'yeah, why not, I'll get those curtains, and I'll get the best Ines too.'

Apple are in that sort of position. Let's invest a billion on developing Siri. Will it make us a billion? Not straight away. In fact, if they didn't do it, people would still buy iPhones, so arguably it doesn't make them any extra money. But it gets the competition to sit up and think, we ought to be doing that too, and the whole industry moved on. 

The more money they make, the more the can invest in new things. They don't have to, they would still make boat loads of money. 

Lets invest a billion into self driving cars. Why not? They've got the money. But it won't necessarily make them as much as they're going to invest in it. 

Thats the beautiful thing though. Money makes money. They can invest a billion into an r&d project like that, which might eventually come up with the next huge tech revolution, and make them a trillion.

but people will still get on at thema bout how much money they make. They're almost at a point now where they can't help it. They keep reinvesting, and doubling it, but at the same time moving the human race forward. 

Thats got to be a good thing hasn't it?

10 hours ago, McRamFan said:

Makes no odds, Android will be the biggest operation system, apple way to slow to keep up, has too many hurdles, too many issues.

Android has issues, issues that rise from demand. apple just refuse, put barriers up for apps.

It's quite impressive how you can type the exact opposite of reality and sound so serious about it. King of dead pan. 

Let me try:

up is down, left is right, forest are the best team in the... nope, couldn't do it without smiling. 

I used to be massively anti-apple. My wife wanted an iPod, and I didn't let her. I spent ages researching a 'superior' Samsung device. 

I thought that once I bought one Apple product, I'd be trapped forever, and I thought I valued choice over having the coolest stuff. 

I was also terrified about learning a whole new os, as I used to be quite the Windows nerd, and felt I would be a total dunce in a Mac OS.

However, I eventually relented and got a MacBook, closely followed by iPhones and everything else. I was right, once I'd got one thing I was trapped in the ecosystem. 

But i love it. I haven't got time these days to research all the latest, greatest phones. I have faith the iPhone is at the top of the tree, or thereabouts, so what more could I possibly want. I see adverts saying the pixel has the best camera money can buy. Well I still remember when a 2mp camera was an incredible innovation with crystal clear images. So I'm quite happy with the camera on my iPhone. Don't even know or care how many mp it is now. It's more than 5mp, that's all I care about. 

Its so freeing having no choice. I need a new phone, I see what the latest Apple phone is. All I have then is the agonising decision over which colour to have. It means I don't have to pour over review websites looking for the best of the rest. Like I did when I found that Samsung MP3 player. Spent ages looking for it, and it was good, but it was relevant for about 6 months before Apple brought something way better out. 

Mans what's this about apple not innovating. Didn't they invent the format that everyone now copies in the form of the original iPhone?

im really looking forward to the next announcement, because I think they know the competition is catching them up and overtaking them. I think they've been saving all their best stuff for the 10 year anniversary of the iPhone. Something special is coming.