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    mice_elf got a reaction from i-Ram in First Derby Player You Ever Saw Score a Goal Live   
    Keith Havenhand in a 1-1 draw against Rotherham at the BBG in March 1962 - I was 8 years old at the time :-
    https://www.11v11.com/matches/Derby-county-v-rotherham-united-03-march-1962-110920/
    Starting lineup:
    Goalkeeper     Reg Matthews
    Defender       Mick Hopkinson
    Full back      Geoff Barrowcliffe
    Centre half     Les Moore
    Wing half      Glyn Davies
    Outside right    Don Roby
    Centre forward    Bill Curry
    Forward        Bob Stephenson
    Winger         Ray Swallow
    I had to look up the goalscorer.
    It was a pretty ropey match - I couldn't believe how long, and how often, the ball seemed to be in the air!
    I believe it was Bob Stephenson's debut, memorable because he was Derbyshire's Wicketkeeper understudy to 
    Bob Taylor. Ian Buxton was a regular player round those years, so we had two Cricketing footballers on the 
    Books at that time.  
  2. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from i-Ram in First Derby Player You Ever Saw Score a Goal Live   
    Keith Havenhand in a 1-1 draw against Rotherham at the BBG in March 1962 - I was 8 years old at the time :-
    https://www.11v11.com/matches/Derby-county-v-rotherham-united-03-march-1962-110920/
    Starting lineup:
    Goalkeeper     Reg Matthews
    Defender       Mick Hopkinson
    Full back      Geoff Barrowcliffe
    Centre half     Les Moore
    Wing half      Glyn Davies
    Outside right    Don Roby
    Centre forward    Bill Curry
    Forward        Bob Stephenson
    Winger         Ray Swallow
    I had to look up the goalscorer.
    It was a pretty ropey match - I couldn't believe how long, and how often, the ball seemed to be in the air!
    I believe it was Bob Stephenson's debut, memorable because he was Derbyshire's Wicketkeeper understudy to 
    Bob Taylor. Ian Buxton was a regular player round those years, so we had two Cricketing footballers on the 
    Books at that time.  
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    mice_elf got a reaction from HantsRam in Nick Blackman - Joined Sporting de Gijon on loan   
    He played well in his only game in Spain last Season, for Maccabi Tel Aviv against Villareal 
    in the Europa League. Scored an absolute peach of a goal - see the clip below, where you'll
    also catch sight of Steve McClaren on the Tel Aviv bench :-
    http://www.footballhighlights247.com/villarreal-maccabi-tel-aviv-match-highlights.m107215.html
    Sporting Gijon player Jean-Sylvain Babin was on loan at Maccabi Tel Aviv alongside Blackman last 
    Season, so he knows at least one of his new Teammates.
    I wish him well at his new Club.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from HantsRam in Nick Blackman - Joined Sporting de Gijon on loan   
    He played well in his only game in Spain last Season, for Maccabi Tel Aviv against Villareal 
    in the Europa League. Scored an absolute peach of a goal - see the clip below, where you'll
    also catch sight of Steve McClaren on the Tel Aviv bench :-
    http://www.footballhighlights247.com/villarreal-maccabi-tel-aviv-match-highlights.m107215.html
    Sporting Gijon player Jean-Sylvain Babin was on loan at Maccabi Tel Aviv alongside Blackman last 
    Season, so he knows at least one of his new Teammates.
    I wish him well at his new Club.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from HantsRam in Nick Blackman - Joined Sporting de Gijon on loan   
    He played well in his only game in Spain last Season, for Maccabi Tel Aviv against Villareal 
    in the Europa League. Scored an absolute peach of a goal - see the clip below, where you'll
    also catch sight of Steve McClaren on the Tel Aviv bench :-
    http://www.footballhighlights247.com/villarreal-maccabi-tel-aviv-match-highlights.m107215.html
    Sporting Gijon player Jean-Sylvain Babin was on loan at Maccabi Tel Aviv alongside Blackman last 
    Season, so he knows at least one of his new Teammates.
    I wish him well at his new Club.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from HantsRam in Nick Blackman - Joined Sporting de Gijon on loan   
    He played well in his only game in Spain last Season, for Maccabi Tel Aviv against Villareal 
    in the Europa League. Scored an absolute peach of a goal - see the clip below, where you'll
    also catch sight of Steve McClaren on the Tel Aviv bench :-
    http://www.footballhighlights247.com/villarreal-maccabi-tel-aviv-match-highlights.m107215.html
    Sporting Gijon player Jean-Sylvain Babin was on loan at Maccabi Tel Aviv alongside Blackman last 
    Season, so he knows at least one of his new Teammates.
    I wish him well at his new Club.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from RamNut in Dcfc Crossword   
    I'm not totally confident about 2 and 3 down, but I'll go with :-
     
     
    4  across - wisdom
    7  across - gerry daly
    8  across - futcher
    10 across - tommy johnson
    11 across - gemmill
    12 across - durban
    14 across - david nish
    15 across - robertson
    16 across - billy davies
    1  down   - buckley
    2  down   - pringle                       
    3  down   - mark dennis                             
    5  down   - harry wilson
    6  down   - carbonari
    9  down   - roger davies
    13 down   - banovic
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    mice_elf got a reaction from RamNut in Dcfc Crossword   
    9  across   steve bloomer  
    10 across   deano
    11 across   langan
    13 across   hector
    14 across   tomas cywka
    15 across   juventus
    16 across   rowett
    1  down     francis lee
    2  down     popside  
    3  down     baiano
    4  down     vydra
    5  down     peter taylor
    6  down     bennett
    7  down     longson
    8  down     finn harps
    12 down     george
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    mice_elf got a reaction from RamNut in Dcfc Crossword   
    9  across   steve bloomer  
    10 across   deano
    11 across   langan
    13 across   hector
    14 across   tomas cywka
    15 across   juventus
    16 across   rowett
    1  down     francis lee
    2  down     popside  
    3  down     baiano
    4  down     vydra
    5  down     peter taylor
    6  down     bennett
    7  down     longson
    8  down     finn harps
    12 down     george
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    mice_elf got a reaction from R@M in Matej Vydra - Signed for Burnley   
    Depends how you measure success I guess. 
    He was only 21 years old when he went to West Brom on loan in the Premier League 2013/14, off
    the back of a good Season on loan at Watford in the Championship. That Season at Watford being the first full
    Season of his career, having joined them on loan from Udinese at the age of 20. 
    In 23 Premier League appearances, he scored 3 Goals and had 4 Goal Assists. Those bare stats don't 
    knock your socks off, but when you see that he was only on the Pitch for 668 minutes in those 23 
    appearances, then that puts an entirely different complexion on things. That gives him a Goal/Goal Assist
    for every 95 minutes played in the Premier League :-
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500
    You also have to take into account the state of West Brom that Season. Their joint League top-scorers were 
    Saido Berahino and Stephane Sessegnon with just 5 goals apiece. These are the stats for their more attack-minded
    players that season ( Forwards and attacking midfielders) :-
    Saido Berahino          - 32 Appearances (11 starts/ 22 subs), 1402 minutes played, 5 goals and 2 assists
    Morgan Amaltifano   - 28           "          (26 starts/  2 subs),  2152      "            "      , 4 goals and 4 assists
    Stephane Sessegnon - 26           "          (23 starts/  3 subs),  1962      "            "      , 5 goals and 1 assists
    Victor Anichebe         - 26           "          (11 starts/ 15 subs), 1216      "            "      , 3 goals and 3 assists
    Matej Vydra               - 23           "          (  7 starts/ 16 subs),   668      "            "      , 3 goals and 4 assists 
    Shane Long               - 15            "          (11 starts/  4 subs),  1035      "            "      , 3 goals and 1 assists
    Zoltan Gera               - 14            "          (  5 starts/  9 subs),    482      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Nicolas Anelka          - 12            "          (11 starts/  1 subs),    856      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Scott Sinclair             -   8            "          (  4 starts/  4 subs),    300      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Thieva Bifouma         -   6            "          (  3 starts/  3 subs),    251      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Markus Rosenberg    -   4            "          (  1 starts/  3 subs),      88      "            "      , 0 goals and 0 assists
    All above stats from Transfermarkt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._season
    Given that Vydra has spent pretty much his entire career out on loan, whilst the Pozzo's tried to maximise his value -  
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/transfers/spieler/101500 -
    then it is hardly surprising that his career stats appear a bit hit and miss. It might also explain why he seems a tad 
    reluctant to leave the only Club where he's spent 2 consecutive Seasons in one place.
    Quite why so many Rams fans are  desperate to get the Golden Boot Winner out of the Club is a mystery to me.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from R@M in Matej Vydra - Signed for Burnley   
    Depends how you measure success I guess. 
    He was only 21 years old when he went to West Brom on loan in the Premier League 2013/14, off
    the back of a good Season on loan at Watford in the Championship. That Season at Watford being the first full
    Season of his career, having joined them on loan from Udinese at the age of 20. 
    In 23 Premier League appearances, he scored 3 Goals and had 4 Goal Assists. Those bare stats don't 
    knock your socks off, but when you see that he was only on the Pitch for 668 minutes in those 23 
    appearances, then that puts an entirely different complexion on things. That gives him a Goal/Goal Assist
    for every 95 minutes played in the Premier League :-
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500
    You also have to take into account the state of West Brom that Season. Their joint League top-scorers were 
    Saido Berahino and Stephane Sessegnon with just 5 goals apiece. These are the stats for their more attack-minded
    players that season ( Forwards and attacking midfielders) :-
    Saido Berahino          - 32 Appearances (11 starts/ 22 subs), 1402 minutes played, 5 goals and 2 assists
    Morgan Amaltifano   - 28           "          (26 starts/  2 subs),  2152      "            "      , 4 goals and 4 assists
    Stephane Sessegnon - 26           "          (23 starts/  3 subs),  1962      "            "      , 5 goals and 1 assists
    Victor Anichebe         - 26           "          (11 starts/ 15 subs), 1216      "            "      , 3 goals and 3 assists
    Matej Vydra               - 23           "          (  7 starts/ 16 subs),   668      "            "      , 3 goals and 4 assists 
    Shane Long               - 15            "          (11 starts/  4 subs),  1035      "            "      , 3 goals and 1 assists
    Zoltan Gera               - 14            "          (  5 starts/  9 subs),    482      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Nicolas Anelka          - 12            "          (11 starts/  1 subs),    856      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Scott Sinclair             -   8            "          (  4 starts/  4 subs),    300      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Thieva Bifouma         -   6            "          (  3 starts/  3 subs),    251      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Markus Rosenberg    -   4            "          (  1 starts/  3 subs),      88      "            "      , 0 goals and 0 assists
    All above stats from Transfermarkt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._season
    Given that Vydra has spent pretty much his entire career out on loan, whilst the Pozzo's tried to maximise his value -  
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/transfers/spieler/101500 -
    then it is hardly surprising that his career stats appear a bit hit and miss. It might also explain why he seems a tad 
    reluctant to leave the only Club where he's spent 2 consecutive Seasons in one place.
    Quite why so many Rams fans are  desperate to get the Golden Boot Winner out of the Club is a mystery to me.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from R@M in Matej Vydra - Signed for Burnley   
    Depends how you measure success I guess. 
    He was only 21 years old when he went to West Brom on loan in the Premier League 2013/14, off
    the back of a good Season on loan at Watford in the Championship. That Season at Watford being the first full
    Season of his career, having joined them on loan from Udinese at the age of 20. 
    In 23 Premier League appearances, he scored 3 Goals and had 4 Goal Assists. Those bare stats don't 
    knock your socks off, but when you see that he was only on the Pitch for 668 minutes in those 23 
    appearances, then that puts an entirely different complexion on things. That gives him a Goal/Goal Assist
    for every 95 minutes played in the Premier League :-
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500
    You also have to take into account the state of West Brom that Season. Their joint League top-scorers were 
    Saido Berahino and Stephane Sessegnon with just 5 goals apiece. These are the stats for their more attack-minded
    players that season ( Forwards and attacking midfielders) :-
    Saido Berahino          - 32 Appearances (11 starts/ 22 subs), 1402 minutes played, 5 goals and 2 assists
    Morgan Amaltifano   - 28           "          (26 starts/  2 subs),  2152      "            "      , 4 goals and 4 assists
    Stephane Sessegnon - 26           "          (23 starts/  3 subs),  1962      "            "      , 5 goals and 1 assists
    Victor Anichebe         - 26           "          (11 starts/ 15 subs), 1216      "            "      , 3 goals and 3 assists
    Matej Vydra               - 23           "          (  7 starts/ 16 subs),   668      "            "      , 3 goals and 4 assists 
    Shane Long               - 15            "          (11 starts/  4 subs),  1035      "            "      , 3 goals and 1 assists
    Zoltan Gera               - 14            "          (  5 starts/  9 subs),    482      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Nicolas Anelka          - 12            "          (11 starts/  1 subs),    856      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Scott Sinclair             -   8            "          (  4 starts/  4 subs),    300      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Thieva Bifouma         -   6            "          (  3 starts/  3 subs),    251      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Markus Rosenberg    -   4            "          (  1 starts/  3 subs),      88      "            "      , 0 goals and 0 assists
    All above stats from Transfermarkt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._season
    Given that Vydra has spent pretty much his entire career out on loan, whilst the Pozzo's tried to maximise his value -  
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/transfers/spieler/101500 -
    then it is hardly surprising that his career stats appear a bit hit and miss. It might also explain why he seems a tad 
    reluctant to leave the only Club where he's spent 2 consecutive Seasons in one place.
    Quite why so many Rams fans are  desperate to get the Golden Boot Winner out of the Club is a mystery to me.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from R@M in Matej Vydra - Signed for Burnley   
    Depends how you measure success I guess. 
    He was only 21 years old when he went to West Brom on loan in the Premier League 2013/14, off
    the back of a good Season on loan at Watford in the Championship. That Season at Watford being the first full
    Season of his career, having joined them on loan from Udinese at the age of 20. 
    In 23 Premier League appearances, he scored 3 Goals and had 4 Goal Assists. Those bare stats don't 
    knock your socks off, but when you see that he was only on the Pitch for 668 minutes in those 23 
    appearances, then that puts an entirely different complexion on things. That gives him a Goal/Goal Assist
    for every 95 minutes played in the Premier League :-
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500
    You also have to take into account the state of West Brom that Season. Their joint League top-scorers were 
    Saido Berahino and Stephane Sessegnon with just 5 goals apiece. These are the stats for their more attack-minded
    players that season ( Forwards and attacking midfielders) :-
    Saido Berahino          - 32 Appearances (11 starts/ 22 subs), 1402 minutes played, 5 goals and 2 assists
    Morgan Amaltifano   - 28           "          (26 starts/  2 subs),  2152      "            "      , 4 goals and 4 assists
    Stephane Sessegnon - 26           "          (23 starts/  3 subs),  1962      "            "      , 5 goals and 1 assists
    Victor Anichebe         - 26           "          (11 starts/ 15 subs), 1216      "            "      , 3 goals and 3 assists
    Matej Vydra               - 23           "          (  7 starts/ 16 subs),   668      "            "      , 3 goals and 4 assists 
    Shane Long               - 15            "          (11 starts/  4 subs),  1035      "            "      , 3 goals and 1 assists
    Zoltan Gera               - 14            "          (  5 starts/  9 subs),    482      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Nicolas Anelka          - 12            "          (11 starts/  1 subs),    856      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Scott Sinclair             -   8            "          (  4 starts/  4 subs),    300      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Thieva Bifouma         -   6            "          (  3 starts/  3 subs),    251      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Markus Rosenberg    -   4            "          (  1 starts/  3 subs),      88      "            "      , 0 goals and 0 assists
    All above stats from Transfermarkt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._season
    Given that Vydra has spent pretty much his entire career out on loan, whilst the Pozzo's tried to maximise his value -  
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/transfers/spieler/101500 -
    then it is hardly surprising that his career stats appear a bit hit and miss. It might also explain why he seems a tad 
    reluctant to leave the only Club where he's spent 2 consecutive Seasons in one place.
    Quite why so many Rams fans are  desperate to get the Golden Boot Winner out of the Club is a mystery to me.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from R@M in Matej Vydra - Signed for Burnley   
    Depends how you measure success I guess. 
    He was only 21 years old when he went to West Brom on loan in the Premier League 2013/14, off
    the back of a good Season on loan at Watford in the Championship. That Season at Watford being the first full
    Season of his career, having joined them on loan from Udinese at the age of 20. 
    In 23 Premier League appearances, he scored 3 Goals and had 4 Goal Assists. Those bare stats don't 
    knock your socks off, but when you see that he was only on the Pitch for 668 minutes in those 23 
    appearances, then that puts an entirely different complexion on things. That gives him a Goal/Goal Assist
    for every 95 minutes played in the Premier League :-
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500
    You also have to take into account the state of West Brom that Season. Their joint League top-scorers were 
    Saido Berahino and Stephane Sessegnon with just 5 goals apiece. These are the stats for their more attack-minded
    players that season ( Forwards and attacking midfielders) :-
    Saido Berahino          - 32 Appearances (11 starts/ 22 subs), 1402 minutes played, 5 goals and 2 assists
    Morgan Amaltifano   - 28           "          (26 starts/  2 subs),  2152      "            "      , 4 goals and 4 assists
    Stephane Sessegnon - 26           "          (23 starts/  3 subs),  1962      "            "      , 5 goals and 1 assists
    Victor Anichebe         - 26           "          (11 starts/ 15 subs), 1216      "            "      , 3 goals and 3 assists
    Matej Vydra               - 23           "          (  7 starts/ 16 subs),   668      "            "      , 3 goals and 4 assists 
    Shane Long               - 15            "          (11 starts/  4 subs),  1035      "            "      , 3 goals and 1 assists
    Zoltan Gera               - 14            "          (  5 starts/  9 subs),    482      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Nicolas Anelka          - 12            "          (11 starts/  1 subs),    856      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Scott Sinclair             -   8            "          (  4 starts/  4 subs),    300      "            "      , 0 goals and 1 assists
    Thieva Bifouma         -   6            "          (  3 starts/  3 subs),    251      "            "      , 2 goals and 0 assists
    Markus Rosenberg    -   4            "          (  1 starts/  3 subs),      88      "            "      , 0 goals and 0 assists
    All above stats from Transfermarkt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._season
    Given that Vydra has spent pretty much his entire career out on loan, whilst the Pozzo's tried to maximise his value -  
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/transfers/spieler/101500 -
    then it is hardly surprising that his career stats appear a bit hit and miss. It might also explain why he seems a tad 
    reluctant to leave the only Club where he's spent 2 consecutive Seasons in one place.
    Quite why so many Rams fans are  desperate to get the Golden Boot Winner out of the Club is a mystery to me.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Angry Ram in £10m FFP Bill   
    Unless my eyes deceive me, according to that Deloitte Report ( Chart 16 on Page 27), 
    £140 million of that total Championship Club Debt of £1.8 billion was Derby County's.
    The only Clubs with bigger Net Debt, according to Deloitte, were Newcastle/Brighton/Fulham, 
    and all three of those Teams are now in the Premier League. The fifth biggest Net Debtors,
    according to Deloitte, were Cardiff, and they too are now in the Premier League. 
    So the financial gamble taken by Newcastle/Brighton/Fulham/Cardiff paid off for them, having
    reached the Promised Land of the Premier League. Mel's gamble has not yet paid off.
    Now before you start going off on one again, I am not saying that Derby County's Net Debt in 2017
    was £140 million, I am merely pointing out that the Deloitte Report claims that to be the case.
    Presumably Deloitte have failed to appreciate the subtle financial intricacies of the DCFC/Sevco/
    Mel Morris set-up that you have so painstakingly detailed to this Forum. 
  16. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
  17. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
  18. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
  19. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Mr Giggles in Chris Martin - joined Reading on loan until the end of the season   
    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chris-martin-fulham-sunderland-derby-1118071
  20. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Cam the Ram in Johnny Russell - Will he sign a new contract?   
    Here you go :-
    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/george-thorne-johnny-russell-contracts-1057637
  21. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from reveldevil in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
  22. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from reveldevil in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
  23. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from reveldevil in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
  24. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from reveldevil in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
  25. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from reveldevil in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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