armchairram Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 First time poster (been a lurker for a while), admittedly watching on sky and just had to get a few complaints off my chest... 1 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished left back? 2 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished right back? (Green is a centre mid as you all know. 3 - Why have you not signed a recognised goalscorer now Hulse has gone (and to a lesser degree Commons where goals were a bonus)? By 'recognised' I am thinking 15 goals a season plus at the level your playing (or less in the prem where you would score more dropping down). If we signed a lower league striker who scored goals at that level but didnt make the grade at least that would be 'taking a punt.' Tyson for example hasnt scored 10 (league) goals in a season since his Wycombe days.... 4 - Why do you not like Attacking Centre Midfielders? All our centre midfielders are similar and we miss an Idiakez type player. Not saying he is Idiakez but Danns for Leicester bursting forward and getting shots off made me think 'when does one of our centre mids do that?" 5 - Why do you not invest in wide players (Defenders and midfielders). We only have Ben Davies (who never plays anymore), Jamie Ward (who is really a forward), Roberts and Brayford. 6 - Why do you like playing 3/4 Centre Midfielders across the midfield? No 6 may explain this. 7 - Stealing an idea from another poster earlier but why when a player goes on loan from Derby (loaned by Clough) do they never play again? (I may have missed someone bar Croft - prepared to be corrected!) 8 - Why do you not give players at least 5 games (not including 5 minute sub appearances) before discarding? 9 - Why dont you have an assistant manager? Someone to bounce ideas off and tell you when you have lost the plot (not just saying this about Clough!). 10 - General team selections that are crazy - Picking Leacock at right back (to play against whippet Tyson) when Brayford was at Centre back against Forest. Did Leacock ever play again? (when he is not a right back so it was Cloughs fault not his!) Hopefully my rant will be upstaged by a Derby comeback and I will have egg on my face! Back to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 i was going to answer but then realized it wasnt addressed to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Errrm, errrm... not very bright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I don't think Clough comes on here mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 That 2nd half was a very good performance but what's the point of that if you can't make chances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armchairram Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hopefully he will be on later! Perhaps should of phrased it as questions for the forum, first post heat of the moment issues I think! 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 9. Crosby is the assistant manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 10. Not sure if it's answering your question but he played against Coventry QPR and Reading all in the last month of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 1 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished left back? Quite expensive to have 2 and Roberts has done ok this season. I'll bring in a loan if I need to, like when I had Kilbane 2 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished right back? (Green is a centre mid as you all know. Quite expensive to have 2 and Brayford has done ok this season. I'll bring in a loan if I need to, like now maybe as Brayford will be a out for a few weeks 3 - Why have you not signed a recognised goalscorer now Hulse has gone (and to a lesser degree Commons where goals were a bonus)? By 'recognised' I am thinking 15 goals a season plus at the level your playing (or less in the prem where you would score more dropping down). If we signed a lower league striker who scored goals at that level but didnt make the grade at least that would be 'taking a punt.' Tyson for example hasnt scored 10 (league) goals in a season since his Wycombe days.... Expensive. We are getting one this Summer though 4 - Why do you not like Attacking Centre Midfielders? All our centre midfielders are similar and we miss an Idiakez type player. Not saying he is Idiakez but Danns for Leicester bursting forward and getting shots off made me think 'when does one of our centre mids do that?" I'd say Danns is like our CMs, just better. I keep looking for the creative one but they hard to find unless we spend loads. Word 5 - Why do you not invest in wide players (Defenders and midfielders). We only have Ben Davies (who never plays anymore), Jamie Ward (who is really a forward), Roberts and Brayford. I like my team to be solid and tight-out good two spells this season didn't need wide men really. 6 - Why do you like playing 3/4 Centre Midfielders across the midfield? No 6 may explain this. It did, girlfriend 7 - Stealing an idea from another poster earlier but why when a player goes on loan from Derby (loaned by Clough) do they never play again? (I may have missed someone bar Croft - prepared to be corrected!) I usually loan out players who aren't good enough for Derby who I can't sell either, or youngsters for experience 8 - Why do you not give players at least 5 games (not including 5 minute sub appearances) before discarding? I see them in training every day, you don't innit 9 - Why dont you have an assistant manager? Someone to bounce ideas off and tell you when you have lost the plot (not just saying this about Clough!). Do you think my coaching staff never question anything I do, but if I made one of them 'assistant manager' they would suddenly come out with loads of great ideas that they were too shy to tell me before? Behave 10 - General team selections that are crazy - Picking Leacock at right back (to play against whippet Tyson) when Brayford was at Centre back against Forest. Did Leacock ever play again? (when he is not a right back so it was Cloughs fault not his!) That was a mistake. Recognise. Leacock gave up ages ago. I see him in training. Do you think if he was giving 100% every day he wouldn't be playing? Hopefully my rant will be upstaged by a Derby comeback and I will have egg on my face! Nah, but we've got a much nicer run of games coming up once we get the Brum away and Blackpool at home match out the way. Rather than write loads of "I've fallen out of love with Derby" and "Let's Protest" posts when we end up losing these 2 games, start counting how many points we will get vs Watford (H), Forest (H), Doncaster (A), Brighton (A), Palace (H), Bristol (A), Ipswich (H). I'm hoping for 5 wins from that lot. Thanks for your support Yours in football Nige x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryKrinkle Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You can take the piss but these are very basic questions that you wouldn't expect to be asking your manager after 3+ years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You can take the piss but these are very basic questions that you wouldn't expect to be asking your manager after 3+ years... yep, and they can mostly be answered by financial constraints. i'm sure the team would be very different if nige had spent the same as leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryKrinkle Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So should we be happy with dross then , as long as we're keeping the purse strings tight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 We got enough money to take the team to Madrid for a team bonding in the morning, mind u maybe NC is hoping they learn something at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 We got enough money to take the team to Madrid for a team bonding in the morning, mind u maybe NC is hoping they learn something at the game. Waste of time and cash. We'll play the same dross way at Birmingham in 10 days. It's alright getting a good team morale but if your players can't succesfully pass 5 yards a few times a game your pissing in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Dave Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 We got enough money to take the team to Madrid for a team bonding in the morning, mind u maybe NC is hoping they learn something at the game. I would have though that it will not cost £1 million upwards plus 10 grand a week for three years to fly the team to Spain. Could be considered relatively cheap compared. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Why do we bring every player back for a corner but other teams will come to PP, be 1-0 up with 10mins left and leave an attacker up for our corner? What happens if we clear the corner? Won't it come straight back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 So should we be happy with dross then , as long as we're keeping the purse strings tight? Prefer to have our 'dross' and be where we are, would you want to swap with Portsmouth, forest, Donny or Cov? We have to generate money to buy players, the more money we generate, the better players we can afford. So if you don't want to put up with 'dross', if you haven't already, buy a season ticket, or tickets to games, and/or merchandise, buy food inside the ground, buy the programme, get other people to do the same and support your club! We are spending (there or there abouts) what we are earning, just like any sensible business, family or individual would. I want a Lambo, but I cannot afford one, so I put up with my 'dross' Focus, because I can afford that and it gets the job done, and doesn't cost a fortune on running costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 1 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished left back? Because he's probably been told we can't afford one unless we sell somebody. So actually, is this a question for the owners? 2 - Why do we only have one recognised/accomplished right back? (Green is a centre mid as you all know) See above 3 - Why have you not signed a recognised goalscorer now Hulse has gone (and to a lesser degree Commons where goals were a bonus)? By 'recognised' I am thinking 15 goals a season plus at the level your playing (or less in the prem where you would score more dropping down). If we signed a lower league striker who scored goals at that level but didnt make the grade at least that would be 'taking a punt.' Tyson for example hasnt scored 10 (league) goals in a season since his Wycombe days.... See above 4 - Why do you not like Attacking Centre Midfielders? All our centre midfielders are similar and we miss an Idiakez type player. Not saying he is Idiakez but Danns for Leicester bursting forward and getting shots off made me think 'when does one of our centre mids do that?" I'd argue that Bryson is more attacking, in terms of getting up and down the pitch, than Idiakez was. Not as good, but that wasn't your question. He's also brought Carroll in who looks more offensive than defensive. 5 - Why do you not invest in wide players (Defenders and midfielders). We only have Ben Davies (who never plays anymore), Jamie Ward (who is really a forward), Roberts and Brayford. And Tyson. But as with the first two questions, it's probably not his decision on investing. 6 - Why do you like playing 3/4 Centre Midfielders across the midfield? No 6 may explain this. Very good question. Drives me crackers. 7 - Stealing an idea from another poster earlier but why when a player goes on loan from Derby (loaned by Clough) do they never play again? (I may have missed someone bar Croft - prepared to be corrected!) That's the same with alot of clubs - not sure we are too different in that respect. Also players went out on loan and never returned before Clough's time - I think that's just the way things work out, is it not? 8 - Why do you not give players at least 5 games (not including 5 minute sub appearances) before discarding? Half the people on this forum moaned for giving Pearson, Roberts etc way too much time. So who are you referring to? I suspect there's lots of reasons that we don't see - attitude in training, being disruptive, poor fitness. We all like to think that Maguire would have made all the difference last night, but if he's not putting effort in during training, or has a bad attitude, why should he be picked? I'm not saying that's why but it could be. I don't know - the same as you don't know. 9 - Why dont you have an assistant manager? Someone to bounce ideas off and tell you when you have lost the plot (not just saying this about Clough!). He bounces ideas of Metgod and Garner - do you have to be titled 'Assistant' to have ideas bounced off you? 10 - General team selections that are crazy - Picking Leacock at right back (to play against whippet Tyson) when Brayford was at Centre back against Forest. Did Leacock ever play again? (when he is not a right back so it was Cloughs fault not his!) Brayford played at centre half a few times last season, and was absolutely outstanding - I don't remember many people moaning away at Ipswich when he was the best player on the pitch, in centre half. People just remember forest. With regard to him never playing for us again, it could be, as mentioned above, for a raft of reasons. As things turned out we now have Barker and Shackell, and Leacock has ended up at Leyton Orient, so I'd say him leaving is pretty well justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 For 10 we were on a losing run and something needed to be changed, and with Tyson and Leacock and the corner flag, he thought it would be good to have a fired up Leacock marking Tyson, also Brayford is quicker than Leacock and they had Earnshaw and Tudgay upfront, not the tallest of strikers, so it was a gamble that didn't pay off as Leacock got booked in the first 10 mins (as did Moxey) and neither of them could then make any challenges on the wide men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armchairram Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for all the replies to my questions/rant! Looking at it in a simpler way I guess the question is have we made any progress in the past three years? Some credit can be given for cutting the wage bill but beyond this on the pitch? I would say the 1st choice back four has improved a lot but my pet hate, the lack of full back cover remains (and no relying on loans is not good enough, where is the loan now Brayford is injured/Green is not a right back). Otherwise I see no improvement in attack or midfield but the fact that there are some promising youngsters (Bennett/Hendrick etc) is a positive. And the football is pretty dire bar the odd game/spell but it was equally dire, perhaps worse when he came. As a blinkered clough hater I am interested to see if others see it differently!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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