uttoxram75 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15381652.stm Peterborough director Barry Fry says Football League clubs could close their youth academies if a new compensation system is introduced. The 72 Football League clubs vote on proposals to overhaul the academy system on Thursday. But they have been told by the Premier League they will lose funding if they opt against them. "What frightens me is that a lot of clubs will pull out of having a youth system altogether," said Fry. If the plans are accepted, it would likely put an end to the type of deal which saw West Ham sign Sam Baldock, 22, from MK Dons for £2.5m in August. The current tribunal system used when the buying and selling club cannot agree a fee for the transfer of a player aged under 17 will be replaced by a set of fixed prices. The new price tariffs will see a selling club paid £3,000 per year for every year of a player's development between the ages of nine and 11. The fee per year from 12 to 16 will depend on the selling club's academy status but ranges between £12,500 and £40,000. Continue reading the main story If we lose our youth players for nominal fees how are we going to survive? Karl Robinson MK Dons manager If Football League clubs vote against the new proposals, they have been told the funding they receive annually from the Premier League for youth development - a fee currently in excess of £5m per season - will be withheld. BBC Sport understands the Football League has reluctantly advised its members to vote in favour of accepting the Premier League's final offer at Thursday's meeting at the Bescot Stadium in Walsall. The restructure is tied in with the Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP), which aims to improve the youth development system. It has already been accepted by top-flight clubs at a vote in June. And Fry added: "Lower league clubs will look at how much it costs to run their academy or school of excellence and think that, if the Premier League can nick their best players for a low price, what is the point of investing in it?" Fry estimates the sale of home-grown players such as Luke Steele to Manchester United in 2002, plus Matthew Etherington and Simon Davies - both to Tottenham in 2000 - generated Peterborough in the region of £6m. But he added: "We would not get anything like that under the new system. "The Premier League wants everything and they want it for nothing. Football League clubs will moan about this at the meeting but vote for it because they have no choice." Peterborough received £500,000 for selling Matthew Etherington to Spurs Milton Keynes Dons this week reportedly agreed a £1.5 fee, rising to £2m, with Chelsea for 14-year-old Oluwaseyi Ojo. As well as the sale of Baldock to West Ham, MK Dons have used seven players that have come through their youth ranks in their first team this season. MK Dons boss Karl Robinson, who is a former member of the Liverpool academy coaching staff, said: "If we lose our youth players for nominal fees how are we going to survive? "I don't think it is fair. Kids develop at a phenomenal rate at the highest level but are these kids going to play in people's first teams at the age of 16 or 17?" One academy manager at a Football League club, who asked not to be named, said he feared the new price structure would lead to Premier League clubs "hoovering up the best talent" outside of the top-flight, with the danger it would stunt the development of players who would find their path to first-team football blocked by seasoned professionals. The Premier League is keen to stress that, if the new proposals are accepted, they will result in an increased youth development payment for all 92 Premier League and Football League clubs for a guaranteed four-year period. That money will be gratefully received by Football League clubs due to lost revenue from the latest television deal. The Premier League is also confident the EPPP will help to produce more top-quality players, potentially strengthening the England team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 72 League clubs get in "excess" of £5m, between them. They should tell the Prem to stick it and keep the right to sell their young players at the going rate. Otherwise the Prem clubs could just hoover up as many young players as they want at next to nothing cost. Ianm, tell Mr. Glick to vote against please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Were talking about this on LTLF, absolute farce. With the johnny foreigners owning half the premier league clubs trying to stop promotion/relegation - they are killing the game. If this goes ahead in 30years we will end up with professional clubs in the PL and the rest non existant or in financial ruin. The EPL is the worst thing to happen to football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 reckon its better to start a break away ourselves.....let blackburn QPR and the likes play man utd chelsea and city every week....ha ha ha...... as for deciding on the country's youngsters! who they think they are.....??just because the national team is rubbish they think theyd better make sure we can train kids 10 hours a day! what other profession does that? the ethics are completely f*cked....kids play football pretty much all day anyway...BETWEEN LESSONS cos they should be at school.. because its an enjoyable game..now because theres so much money involved in 'soccer' and our national pride is at stake they think this is reasonable. its like a cattle market.....we want the sweet meat....the young blood. im disgusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 It works out at £80k per club. If they sell their souls for that we might as well give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Nige'l dig his heels in...... its a total farse.... like tory policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Ram Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Farce - nuf said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Football League = spineless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 ? invertebrate?? the football league never 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Didien't see this thread anywhere, anyhow We are going to get shafted for all our best Academy players and the whole idea Clough has been developing the future of the club around will be in tatters because all our most talented players will be stolen from us at miniscule compensation rates that will mean we cannot keep Moor Farm running for long, if we end up stuck in this leagueand we will be left with tuppance. Think its outrageous that the Premier League have bribed the Football League clubs with some cash, even though its completely against their clubs interests financially. Southampton and Ipswich have gotten huge wads of cash for Wickham and Chamberain? but by the tame Bennett and Thomas are 17 and 18 we would get barely nothing for them ( assuming the unlikely event that we can hang on to them for that long) Sounds like a total rip off! What a load of nonsense this makes of the Financial Fairy Play Rules. The Academy staff must be worried about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Only the Football League would think getting an extra £70k is better than losing thier best prospect for peanuts. Tin pot orgainsation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Why is any of this making head way? First the ******** about a premier league lock-in, now this rubbish. How long before clubs breakaway and leave the money men to their own ego? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Following a debate by all clubs at a meeting in Walsall today on the proposed Elite Player Performance Plan, a Football League spokesman said: "Following lengthy consideration, Football League clubs have voted to accept the Premier League's proposals on the Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP). "The League will now continue discussions with the Premier League on the implementation of the EPPP across professional football." http://www.football-league.co.uk/footballleaguenews/20111020/league-clubs-approve-elite-player-performance-plan-proposals_2293334_2488264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I have lost all respect for the Football League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Worst news to hit us for years. Would like to know how Glick will spin this one around now, with all the talk he gave about the great prospects we have coming through at the Academy. We should flog all of the best ones off now, before we get nothing for them. Guess thats what will be happening all over the place before this rule comes into effect. If it already is in effect, then we're fekked. Worse still for teams lower down the Pyramid, such as Crewe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 They'll probably spend the money they earned an another AGM in Cyprus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 it makes no sense......what can clubs do to throw a spanner in the works...strike strike strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Premier League clubs reaction http://www.sharronorovanjohnston.com/laughing%20group Football League clubs immediate reaction http://www.lifesip.com/images/money-5 Football League clubs in a few years time http://laspodcast.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/empty-pockets?w=300&h=365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 The fact that the Football League has released such a short statment sums up the fact that club are finding it hard to justifty to the public why they voted it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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