dabber Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Ireland got beat 5-0 by Spain in the semi today, so Jeff will be on the way back as there does not seem to be a 3rd place game. Is he the answer to our holding midfielder quest (hardly proven Championship I know!)? If we are going to play 4-1-3-2 then certainly not, but if 4-2-3-1 then I think him and Bailey could do the job, even Bailey and Bryson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Shame he's on the verge of breaking through in the same summer he's called up for a international tournament. Would of been brilliant to have had him for the friendlies. The 5 man subs rule might keep him in the reserves until our season is decided. Stupid rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Spain are so good its scary. They'll dominate the next decade in club and international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ram Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Spain are so good its scary. They'll dominate the next decade in club and international football. Agreed, just wish that players like Xavi had started there international careers round about now, because he won't ever get the recognition his skills deserve. Absolutely fantastic player, Iniesta too, although he's a bit younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Shame he's on the verge of breaking through in the same summer he's called up for a international tournament. Would of been brilliant to have had him for the friendlies. The 5 man subs rule might keep him in the reserves until our season is decided. Stupid rule. I think the tournament was certainly great for his match fitness; I think he played 90 mins in each of their 4 games. But yes not much chance to impress Clough and see how he fits in the current scheme of things. I think too inexperienced to fill the role at the moment, but I would rather him than a last minute panic now it seems our only target has signed a new contract with Watford. Oakley would be a good shout to show the young lads the ropes however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think Xavi is on the shortlist for UEFA POTY this year. With Ronaldo and Messi. Iniesta came 4th. I agree btw, Xavi has gone years without the recognition he deserves. Probably because everything he does is unspectacular. But he's certainly a complete midfielder. Master of all trades. All that hard work with the youngsters has paid off now. The next generation coming through seems alright aswell eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think the tournament was certainly great for his match fitness; I think he played 90 mins in each of their 4 games. But yes not much chance to impress Clough and see how he fits in the current scheme of things. I think too inexperienced to fill the role at the moment, but I would rather him than a last minute panic now it seems our only target has signed a new contract with Watford. Oakley would be a good shout to show the young lads the ropes however Yeah, i doubt he's aquired the intelligence/experience to play such an important position yet. The DM role obviously requires you to be able to read the game well. An older head is going to be better at that. I'd rather see him on loan if he can't make the bench. I really hate the new 5 subs rule. I thought we're supposed to be encouraging British youngsters through into the top level of the game. How many clubs have got youth talent on the verge of a breakthrough that aren't going to get 20mins here and there now. It'd be nice to make room for O'Brien too on the bench. Again, i hate this new rule :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think the tournament was certainly great for his match fitness; I think he played 90 mins in each of their 4 games. But yes not much chance to impress Clough and see how he fits in the current scheme of things. I think too inexperienced to fill the role at the moment, but I would rather him than a last minute panic now it seems our only target has signed a new contract with Watford. Oakley would be a good shout to show the young lads the ropes however Wasn't it shown on Sky or summat, I'm sure that the FA will have the games on DVD. Certainly Cloughie will be able to watch the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Eurosport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Shame he's on the verge of breaking through in the same summer he's called up for a international tournament. Would of been brilliant to have had him for the friendlies. The 5 man subs rule might keep him in the reserves until our season is decided. Stupid rule.[/QUOTE] The game of football survived over 100 years with 3 subs or less, I don't see why everyone is complaining about this rule change. I think it will make teams think harder about the size of squad they wish to have and if anything will give youngsters greater chance of progression as clubs will be less likely to buy players just ot fill the bench...although we can hardly be criticised for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Agreed, just wish that players like Xavi had started there international careers round about now, because he won't ever get the recognition his skills deserve. Absolutely fantastic player, Iniesta too, although he's a bit younger. Nah, if Xavi was starting out now then it would still take him years to get the full recognition he deserves as he would still be yet to dictate the way football was to change. Arguably, players like Maradona and Messi don't really change the game apart from reminding us how small little players can be wonderful players of sublime skills. The way Xavi and Iniesta have been coached and play have set a new standard for everyone else to attempt to copy. When Barca beat Man U I thought both Rio and Vidic were superb and Barca still thrashed them. Shame Spurs didn't get to play Barca last season when they were going through their purple patch. Maybe their counter attacking ability could have broken through and they may have sneaked past by the odd goal in 17. Anyway, is Hendrick the new Xavi or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Too right. I'd prefer it back to 2. Loved those games where a goalkeeper got sent off or injured and a player had to go in goal. I remember Paul Williams been good between the sticks and Savage weren't bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I agree I don't know why they need 7 subs, it seems the poor managers are using youngsters as an excuse as they can't use there skills with 5 subs. If a youngster is good enough he will be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Watched abit of the game and I was impressed with him. Some great passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Watched abit of the game and I was impressed with him. Some great passes. where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 65 mins to 85 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Remember Steve Sutton getting sent off against Bristol City after about 5 minutes and Jossie playing in goals for the rest of the game. Was just saying to my old man the other day that red cards were very few and far between in the 80s and 90s and there would never of been the need for 7 subs back then....maybe a sign of the slippery slope football has been on since those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Football survived all right with just one football for matches, doesn't mean there's not a better system out there. Spain, Germany and France have been far better at producing consistant youth - and they have had bigger benches for longer than us. Doesn't that tell you something? I'm all for "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" - but the point is, it is broke. Our system is flawed in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 See what you are getting out, but bigger benches won't have any affect on how bad England are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I really don't see that some countries having bigger benches have made them produce better players, I think it runs slightly deeper than that. Well thats my clueless opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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