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Chris Peduck

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I've Just not been Told that he was a Moor Farm today.

Unlike the last poster who fell into this little trap Boycie, I shall not

I must point out that in fact, you can only be told nothing. You can't not be told something. Being told nothing includes all possibilities such as Waghorn was not at Moor Farm or (to use the horrendously pretentious example one of my philosophy lecturers was fond of so sod it here's my chance) My uncle is not eating greengages in the next room

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Unlike the last poster who fell into this little trap Boycie, I shall not

I must point out that in fact, you can only be told nothing. You can't not be told something. Being told nothing includes all possibilities such as Waghorn was not at Moor Farm or (to use the horrendously pretentious example one of my philosophy lecturers was fond of so sod it here's my chance) My uncle is not eating greengages in the next room

What a co-incidence, my uncle isn't eating greengages in the next room either.

Surely you can be not told something. It's just that you wouldn't know, so you couldn't report the fact. Or something.

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The thing that makes it different is that he said he had 'just' not been told. That makes it an actual event rather than nothing being said at all. In other words he is saying that something happened while at the same time saying it did not

It not the same as not being told. Or something like that!

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The thing that makes it different is that he said he had 'just' not been told. That makes it an actual event rather than nothing being said at all. In other words he is saying that something happened while at the same time saying it did not

It not the same as not being told. Or something like that!

Yeah, but, erm, at any given instant any given thing is happening or not happening. After that instant, so far as we have the information, we can report whether it happened or not. So Boycie would be within..oh, my head just exploded.:eek:

I'd quite like to sign Waghorn.

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Hi guys they have not just said on SSN that Waghorn has passed his medical and will be in the squad for saturday!!!!!!!

Aah, but they can't have, see above.

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I don't really know that much about him, but unlike a lot of people I trust Nigel Clough's judgement. He seems to have been keen on Waghorn for quite some time, which is his usual pattern. On that basis I'd like us to sign him too

My theory exactly.

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Surely they can? Because they have just said something, but they've not just said what I quoted.

Aah. Get out of that one Ludwig. :D

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What a co-incidence, my uncle isn't eating greengages in the next room either.

Surely you can be not told something. It's just that you wouldn't know, so you couldn't report the fact. Or something.

Or you could report the fact without speaking, therefore excluding the word 'told' and replacing it with another form of communication..

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SOUTHAMPTON aim to snatch three points and striker Martyn Waghorn from Leicester today.

Top-of-the-table Saints want Waghorn in a £1.5m deal.

And manager Nigel Adkins plans to hammer out a deal with Foxes boss Sven Goran Eriksson as soon as the sides have clashed at the King Power Stadium, with newly-promoted Saints looking to maintain their 100 per cent record.

Waghorn, 21, cost Leicester £3m when he was signed from Sunderland by Eriksson’s predecessor Paulo Sousa a year ago after a successful loan spell.

But he has struggled to hold down a regular first-team place under Eriksson and 21 of his 32 Championship appearances last season were from the bench.

Now the Foxes are prepared to accept a cut-price deal.

Leicester have already lost twice at home this season and have managed just four points from their opening four games – despite splashing millions in the transfer market over the summer.

Adkins said: “It will be a tough game and they have obviously spent a lot of money trying to assemble a side.

“Their campaign hasn’t got off to the start they might have wanted, but that’s not to say that it won’t turn around for them because they have some exceptionally good players and a very experienced manager.

“But we have a mentality to try to win and we have people here who work very hard.

“The principles of how we want to play are there for all to see and we have very honest, hardworking players doing that.

“This game will be one hell of a battle and I think the players always appreciate the fact our fans always stay with us.

“We know that traditionally if things aren’t going your way, then the crowd might turn. And that might happen at Leicester, as it does all the way across football.

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